Hello,
usually I don’t care about movies length on tube sites but this site http://twinkteenboys.com/ got my attention.
The owner - MaxPower - said that full length movies make users happy.
Another illegal to add to the list? :rolleyes:
Re: Is giving away full length video a new trend to make surfers happy?
[QUOTE=InsaneSimon;43723]Hello,
usually I don’t care about movies length on tube sites but this site http://twinkteenboys.com/ got my attention.
The owner - MaxPower - said that full length movies make users happy.
Another illegal to add to the list? :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Yes it’s next big thing - I do the same thing PLUS when the surfers are finished watching, I’ll make sure I send them some full length DVDs by regular mail as well.
I don’t want my surfers to complain at any price.
Now seriously, this is bad. Of course users will be happy, but does it make the industry happy… ?
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I disagree with this trend. IMHO, its not thinking of the big picture, sure it makes his surfers happy…but thats not what he should be wanting to do, he should be wanting his surfers to be horny and just a bit frustrated and then offer them relief by pulling out that credit card.
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It’s not just his site that offer these long video clips. It’s really the sponsors who should be taking a careful look at what they are doing by letting their affiliates put up full scenes.
Its irresponsible to put that amount of long videos up for free. What possible incentive does a surfer have to buy a membership?
It’s as Poco says, might as well post them the DVD.
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It’s odd that it’s a Maxpower’s site, and he frequently complains about the fact that there’s too much free porn out there.
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He’s trying to buy a lot of traffic on some boards so either he has some money to loose or he’s doing well and has some damn cheap hosting plans…
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I don’t think there’s any piracy going on there. I suspect that the full scenes he’s using are used with the permission of the programs involved. He does have a few full scenes, but mostly shorter clips (5 mins with no cumshots or whatever).
It is interesting that he used to be the loudest complainer about too much free content. I guess he took the “if you can’t beat 'em, join 'em” mentality 
Re: Is giving away full length video a new trend to make surfers happy?
while i’m not a fan of max, this isn’t that new a thing. they’ve been complaining about it on other boards for almost a year. the tube owners usually carry the bandwidth because the longer videos get bookmarkers.
in the cases i’m aware of, the sponsors did give permission to use the full videos.
[quote=InsaneSimon;43723]Hello,
usually I don’t care about movies length on tube sites but this site http://twinkteenboys.com/ got my attention.
The owner - MaxPower - said that full length movies make users happy.
Another illegal to add to the list? :rolleyes:[/quote]
Re: Is giving away full length video a new trend to make surfers happy?
I am sure the content is legal and used for promotion purposes as well, but think about it… this isn’t a good thing at all.
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Full scenes are great for the tube sites who want to keep their surfers. They don’t necessarily sell any more memberships. I do quite fine selling Butch Dixon with two-minute trailers.
Michael
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I have to say the less we give away the better. For example our free hosted galleries are really not revealing much hardcore, but the sites are selling really well anyway.
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i’ve always sold better with galleries that show more, not less.
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Leaving hundred dollar bills on the front porch makes the Watch Tower folks happy too but that doesn’t mean it is a good idea. Like my mother said time and time again “That which costs you nothing is worth nothing to you” When we will we stop undervaluing our work and the work of others?
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5 mins is a full scene?? I am not sure i read that right, but do plently of 5min tube clips that generate a lot of sales, unless the full scene sucked i can’t imagine it was 5mins, and if it was might as well give it away instead of pissing off another surfer for charging then 39 bux to view a crappy 5 mins scene lol.
Most tubes that do take uploads, and most don’t now, require 5min minimums and i often do 6mins and get plently of sales, it’s all how you edit and push the surfer to join. The cats out of the bag, can’t put it back in. Trick is to give a lot of talking and etc and make it look long Still have to give away a bunch of hardcore, but you need to have something that is really hardcore that people want to see more
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[QUOTE=BabyMaker;43769]5 mins is a full scene?? I am not sure i read that right, but do plently of 5min tube clips that generate a lot of sales, unless the full scene sucked i can’t imagine it was 5mins, and if it was might as well give it away instead of pissing off another surfer for charging then 39 bux to view a crappy 5 mins scene lol.
Most tubes that do take uploads, and most don’t now, require 5min minimums and i often do 6mins and get plently of sales, it’s all how you edit and push the surfer to join. The cats out of the bag, can’t put it back in. Trick is to give a lot of talking and etc and make it look long Still have to give away a bunch of hardcore, but you need to have something that is really hardcore that people want to see more :)[/QUOTE]
I was talking about full scenes. It means grabbing them from the member area of a paysite and upload them as they’re. As a result of that MaxPowers has 29-12-25 minutes movies as last updates.
I agree with you about 5 minutes and more clips. They’re really good.
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I do agree, the Cat’s out of the bag.
But don’t you think that using longer clips like 5 mins is a bad idea? Sure they make sales but next you will put up a 6min clip… then 7… then…
Can’t you (or anyone) make sales with shorter clips, like 1 or 2 mins?
What people seem to totally ignore is that market forces work on supply and demand. The more rare a commodity is, the higher price and easier it will be to sell. VERY basic economics. The more common something is or becomes the harder it will be to sell.
Same with videos, the more you give out now the harder it will get to sell down the road.
[quote=BabyMaker;43769]5 mins is a full scene?? I am not sure i read that right, but do plently of 5min tube clips that generate a lot of sales, unless the full scene sucked i can’t imagine it was 5mins, and if it was might as well give it away instead of pissing off another surfer for charging then 39 bux to view a crappy 5 mins scene lol.
Most tubes that do take uploads, and most don’t now, require 5min minimums and i often do 6mins and get plently of sales, it’s all how you edit and push the surfer to join. The cats out of the bag, can’t put it back in. Trick is to give a lot of talking and etc and make it look long Still have to give away a bunch of hardcore, but you need to have something that is really hardcore that people want to see more :)[/quote]
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Bjorn totally gets it. Kudos.
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[QUOTE=gaydemon;43783]I do agree, the Cat’s out of the bag.
But don’t you think that using longer clips like 5 mins is a bad idea? Sure they make sales but next you will put up a 6min clip… then 7… then…
Can’t you (or anyone) make sales with shorter clips, like 1 or 2 mins?
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I will comment on this one. It really depends on the video. For example, the first 5-8 minutes of every Broke Straight Boys video is the guy setting the stage set for the video. “Will you suck him for $200?”, “Will you fucking him for $500.” What would it take for you to bottom?" Are you afraid that your girlfriend will find out?" etc etc…
Believe it or not, a video with just that and about 20 seconds of showing the guy naked will make a ton of sales. It may clock in at around 4-8 minutes, but it makes more sales than a video edited with 2 minutes of sex.
So, I think a lot depends on the video and what is happening. In Broke Straight Boys case, sometimes setting the stage for what is going to happen and not really show anything makes the sale better than showing some sloppy straight boy sex.
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One of the problems is that someone will NOT sell well with a 2 min clip so they go for 4. That doesn’t work so they go for 6. They pay little attention to the content and are simply looking at the length of things. Just making things longer and longer is a very bad idea. For everybody.
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I agree with everything that has been said, but… how do tube sites compete between themselves?
The only way possible is to offer longer videos than your competitor.
Why would surfer bookmark or even return to your site if you have 2 minute long video of Jake fucking Andrew (for instance), when site “tubexxx” has 12 minute long same video?
Doesn’t that make sense? What would you do, how would you compete to get surfers attention… you’ve got same sites promoting, same videos, similiar layout, same features… except the other site offers three times longer videos than yours.
So who is to blame here?