When a CCBill link isn't a CCBill link

Has anyone noticed how the affiliate links for some CCBill sites do not look like the typical CCBill link? One that comes to mind are the FHG links for Muscle Partners sites such as this:

http://www.musclepartners.com/freeHostedGalleries/freeGallery/a-XXX/musclehunks_model_name_videos2.html

As many of you know, Muscle Partners assigns an ID number to each site an affiliate promotes them on (in the above link I replaced my ID number with XXX for the purpose of this post). I’ve often wondered how links like these impact stats in CCBill.

I’m not accusing anyone of anything and my traffic to MP sites seems to be consistent. I just wonder why they don’t use the traditional deep linking method that other CCBill sites do, and if there is anything odd about the above linking method.

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I would LOVE to adopt something like this. Our Google stats suffer because all the sites that link to us do it through CCBill.com. It would be AMAZING if all the affiliate blogs could link directly to us. If I could figure out what he did, I would honestly do the same!

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is very easy to know if the ID work or no.
once test the link and enter in the site, go to the ccbill join page, in the html code you’ll need to find this

<input type=‘hidden’ name=‘ccbill_referer’ value=‘XXXXXXX’>

where XXXXXXX is your ID, if you don’t found it you not get the sale.

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[QUOTE=msm;109683]Has anyone noticed how the affiliate links for some CCBill sites do not look like the typical CCBill link? One that comes to mind are the FHG links for Muscle Partners sites such as this:

http://www.musclepartners.com/freeHostedGalleries/freeGallery/a-XXX/musclehunks_model_name_videos2.html

As many of you know, Muscle Partners assigns an ID number to each site an affiliate promotes them on (in the above link I replaced my ID number with XXX for the purpose of this post). I’ve often wondered how links like these impact stats in CCBill.

I’m not accusing anyone of anything and my traffic to MP sites seems to be consistent. I just wonder why they don’t use the traditional deep linking method that other CCBill sites do, and if there is anything odd about the above linking method.[/QUOTE]

I’m guessing they are using Apache .htaccess to set a cookie or rewrite the URL’s within the FHG to include your ID… Very simple to do…

For example .htaccess could easily send the traffic to this FHG:

http://www.musclepartners.com/freeHostedGalleries/freeGallery/a-XXX/musclehunks_model_name_videos2.html

Through a script that would then change all the links directing visitors to the main site at the above URL to read like:

<a href=“http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clicks.cgi?CA=985555-0000&PA=a-XXX”>Click here to Enter</a>

You still get the credit for the sale but this will only appear in CCBill as a click if they proceed from the FHG to the main site. You won’t see any click count information for the first click into the FHG… Obviously this makes the ratios seem much better but I think most of know that FHG don’t convert very well as it is or at least that is my experience. Might as well trim out the fat and see how well the ratios are with those who are actually interested enough to proceed.

Sincerely,
Kevin.

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It’s a very easy to realize thing with PHP - hit me up if you need some help.

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Yeah, I guess I never thought about doing something like this in PHP because I feel like there is an inherent mistrust that affiliates have of program owners. And I am sure it is very well-deserved. So the bigger question is, seeing as how this thread exists in the first place, if I did this on our site, would people trust us that everything is going to work? If so, I am going to implement this right away…

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I have always done fhgs w/ Ccbill using php. The default way counts every click to a fhg as a click to the site. Useless stats…

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ok, I just implemented this in our EZ Blog Creator. I am excited to have links actually direct to us for once!

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I did this for a company back couple years ago. Private message me for details.

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Problem with keeping the CCBill id in the url is that you end up with multiple affiliates pointing to multiple url’s to the same content. I have done this couple years back and the steps are as follows.

  1. Affiliate sends traffic via a url such as something.com?ccbill=12345
  2. When url lands the person on the site, you use PHP to parse the url, take the data, and save it into a cookie.
  3. Redirect to the url minus the query string. This guarantees that all incoming links point to one main url and not multiple url’s pointing to the same content.
  4. Create the ccbill url and forward to the main paysite.

By using PHP and url parsing, you can have all the same incoming url’s for google, and the affiliates still get paid.

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that’s some FYI stuff which answers your questions http://www.signbucks.com/static/ccbill-manual

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Wow, what a great article! But two things in it confused me:

You can also get a few PA for the same program (by joining it again) for traffic/sales tracking purposes, because there’s no extended information like page where the customer came from on affiliate side of CCBill Affiliate (there’s one for program owners). Just be sure you don’t refer yourself, otherwise you’ll violate program’s TOS. Clean your CCBill cookie for that program (search it by CA of that program) before creating any additional account.

It must be late because my brain can’t comprehend what that paragraph is suggesting.

You may have noticed that many CCBill programs offer free hosted galleries in this way: http://tools.pacinosadventures.com/hosted/lilly_toy/4/?ccbill=1749630 and script on program’s side generates proper link code to the tour, like http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clicks.cgi?CA=928339&PA=1749630&HTML=http://www.pacinosadventures.com/tour1.html
The practice shows that sometimes there may be some problems with program’s hosting, scripts and other things. So I always recommend to put CCBill part of the code first and link in this way: http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clicks.cgi?CA=928339&PA=1749630&HTML=http://tools.pacinosadventures.com/hosted/lilly_toy/4/?ccbill=1749630
The same with linking codes to tours. Just be sure that ‘Multiple redirects’ are on.

So you’re saying that an affiliate can re-write the CCBill link a sponsor provides into the proper format? I always thought this had to happen on the sponsors side.

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[QUOTE=msm;110177]Wow, what a great article! But two things in it confused me:

It must be late because my brain can’t comprehend what that paragraph is suggesting.

So you’re saying that an affiliate can re-write the CCBill link a sponsor provides into the proper format? I always thought this had to happen on the sponsors side.[/QUOTE]

  1. you use PA1 for your site1 and use PA2 for your site2.
    That info in your quote1 wasn’t correct. I’ve changed it to the following

You can also get a few PA for the same program (by joining it again) for traffic/sales tracking purposes. Just be sure you don’t refer yourself, otherwise you’ll violate program’s TOS. Clear your CCBill cookie for that program (search it by CA of that program) before creating any additional account.

  1. I suggest to set CCBill cookie first before sending your traffic to sponsor’s managed FHG by using CCBill link at the beginning.