Understanding Klout

I think what you’re really asking for is a discussion of Klout. I’ll start it, but I’m going to admit I only know so much about it since I only got turned onto it in the past few weeks.

It all started when I wanted to know who I should be interacting with on Twitter. I mean I knew a retweet from someone with 100 followers doesn’t mean as much as a retweet from someone with 10,000 followers. I also wanted something that would let me objectively measure how I’m improving with social media. I’ve been a lot more active lately - is it helping? Also, with social becoming so important to Google, what measures out there mimic what Google may be doing?

There are a number of measures out there. Klout is the biggest and by far the one with the most funding. But you might also want to look at Kred. I tried Kred, hated it (compared to Klout) and got away from it as quickly as I could. I now forget why I literally deleted my account with them rather than just let it go dormant - but there was something.

Klout doesn’t just look at Twitter. It looks at Facebook, Foursquare, Tumblr, YouTube, etc. So your Klout score is based on more than just Twitter - but only if you sign up and tell them about your other profiles. Without the account it’s just based on Twitter. However, with some services (like Tumblr) they’re still evaluating things and your activity doesn’t contribute to your score (yet). But I see Twitter, Facebook and Foursquare contributing to my score so far.

One irritating thing is that they only consider one item on Facebook - so either a personal profile or a page. If you have multiple pages you can only pick one to factor into your score. I have a rawTOP page and a Breeding Zone page - I can’t include both, even though Breeding Zone is under the rawTOP brand umbrella.

I should mention that people are winning and losing jobs (even getting tenure) because of Klout. You can’t get a social media job these days without showing your Klout score. And if your score is in the 40s the guy who’s in the 60s will beat you out for the job every time. So Klout is having a very real impact.

Klout looks at how active you are, how many followers you have, how often people interact with you, and how important those other people are who are interacting with you. And ditto for the other services. For example, they’ll look at how many Facebook friends you have, how many people share what you post, how many likes you get, and so on.

The score is logarithmic from 0 to 100, so it gets harder to advance the higher up you go. From what I’ve seen, for someone in adult, a score in the 40s says you’re doing something / making an effort. A score in the 50s is good. A score in the 60s is impressive, and a score in the 70s is pretty elite. Underwear brands have it much easier than porn brands because they can have strong Facebook presences. And “cleaner” stuff does better than hardcore but that makes sense since people are more willing to share a pic of a muscle guy with their friends than they are a pic of a cummy ass.

What’s sort of interesting is how average Joe’s can have higher Klout scores than major, active brands. Case and point “Mike” (@PrnPrtyPlay - a vers muscular barebacker / pnp guy in NYC) has a Klout score of 63 while Treasure Island - a strong active brand - doesn’t do as well. @TIMPorn has a score of 56, @PaulMorrisTIM has a score of 51, @MitchMasonXXX has a score of 49, etc.

I think one thing that would be useful is compiling a list of Klout scores for gay porn. I’d like to know who are the people with good Klout scores so I can pay them a bit more attention than everyone else. But if I start a list it’ll take a moderator to keep it up-to-date.

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My twitter @GayTwinkPorn has a Klout of 27.

My personal twitter @RichNeate has a Klout of 45

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My twitter and facebook gay porn pages come up with 49? so thats goodish? Quite impressed with myself!

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Thanks for the introduction to Klout. I feel so behind, had never heard of it and had no idea what it is. It gives a much better overview of your social media activity than each individual service you use. We only do Tumblr and Twitter, Facebook closed down my account… and not sure what other social media are open to adult.

It really is something I need to look into more, or try and understand at least… But social media is often the one thing that feels less important than all the other jobs and projects that needs to be done.

Besides scores, how much do you actually get out of social media? Does is gain you a lot of new bookmarkers and new traffic, or is more because of other indirect benefits like link sharing, Google authority etc.

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It’s a difficult thing to measure in a lot of ways, I think. The benefits aren’t always clear cut. Here’s an example:

I have a guy on my blog who did some porn a couple of years ago and now he’s a massage therapist, real massages not happy endings. He discovered his post on Joe Spunk and emailed me to thank me for it. Then he started following me. We chatted back and forth a bit on email. We live in the same city, not too far from each other, so we might actually get together for coffee.

He has 1,841 followers, which isn’t a huge number. But he regularly will send out a tweet: " Follow Joe Spunk, he’s the best blogger ever." He includes me in his FF post. He visits all the post tweets I do and often comments on them. Sometimes he sends a pic of himself to my Twitter feed and I’ll comment on it. A lot of times he retweets my stuff.

So how do you measure that? He’s like an unpaid PR or marketing guy. Now if I had 10 or 20 or 50 guys like him, wouldn’t that be a great thing. But how do you measure their impact in a meaningful way like with traffic or sales? How many guys has he introduced to the Joe Spunk brand? Are they now visiting the site? Have they ever bought anything? Are they telling their friends about Joe Spunk?

Klout gives you a sort of idea of how influential you are by giving you a score. But it’s still not really helping you figure out how much traffic you’re getting from social media, are those people sticking around, or are they buying anything and are they telling their friends?

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This video isn’t bad at explaining how to increase your Klout score. Rule #1 - don’t pay too much attention to your Klout score.

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Does anyone know how to sort your follower list by Klout score? I want to make sure I’m following influential people who may have followed me over the years - back when I had more things on autopilot and wasn’t paying as much attention to social media.

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Good video. Thanks for sharing it.

I cringe at tip #8 (I think it was) about only interacting with people who have high or higher Klout scores. This sounds like the PageRank fiasco all over again where people only wanted to link to properties with a high PageRank. In the end, it just makes the whole measurement system useless because everyone’s gaming the system.

I had to giggle about don’t check your Klout score because I did so immediately and I’ve actually jumped a point in less than a week since I started my new approach to Twitter.

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I also have a question. I have 5 tumblr blogs, 3 of which I don’t currently update, one of these is the one Klout tracks I guess because that’s the one that shows up when I click my tumblr link on Klout.

Is there a way to fix this? Reorder the tumblrs or something.

And if I delete the tumblr I’m not updating, will it just delete that specific tumblr or my whole account?

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[QUOTE=dzinerbear;135018]I also have a question. I have 5 tumblr blogs, 3 of which I don’t currently update, one of these is the one Klout tracks I guess because that’s the one that shows up when I click my tumblr link on Klout.

Is there a way to fix this? Reorder the tumblrs or something.

And if I delete the tumblr I’m not updating, will it just delete that specific tumblr or my whole account?[/QUOTE]

For starters, Tumblr is not factored into your Klout score (yet).

The first Tumblr blog you start is your default blog. You can’t delete that blog - and all your likes show up as from that blog. Make sure that blog is your best Tumblr blog. The other Tumblr blogs you can add/delete as you like. My strategy now is to only have one Tumblr blog per account in case Tumblr decides they don’t like one of them the others are protected. So I can’t say how Klout deals with cases where there are multiple Tumblr blogs since I don’t have that scenario.

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Too late. My account is set up, the inactive blog is the primary and first one I started, and I don’t feel like moving my Joe Spunk tumblr to a new account and losing all those followers.

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Then do something general with the first blog - otherwise there will be no reason to like things on Tumblr - you’ll get no benefit from it.

Getting back to Klout (it is what this thread is supposed to be about)…

They try to guess your topics, and they sorta come close in some cases, but then they’re way off on others. The video above said to make sure you modify your influencer list. That doesn’t seem to be possible any more, but you can modify your topics list. The top 3 are the most important - 'cause you want people to do +K’s for you on those topics. For example yours are Blogging, College & Families. I can give you a +K for Blogging, but College & Families seems silly in your case.

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Haven’t done anything with topics, so those must be some kind of default from Klout.

Done. I figured that out.

And my Tumblr questions were on track with the subject because Klout isn’t interracting properly with Tumblr.