The latest update is for this to start in July.
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The most important piece in that article: “It had originally been proposed that pornographic services that refused to carry out age checks could be fined up to £250,000. However, this power will not be enforced because ministers believe the threat to block defiant sites will be sufficient and that trying to chase overseas-based entities for payment would have been difficult.”
So, given the choice of going to the newsagent and asking for a porn pass card… or several to cope with the multiple systems, or buying a VPN subscription the question is what will most people do?
With the fine off the table is it calculation about what impact using the verification solution will have on wider traffic or loosing the UK as a market (which will likely be less lucrative) voluntarily or being banned?
Just wait for the next deadline. The British have already proved that they are the most successful nation in delaying of delaying.
Exactly! Blocking sites is at least 6 months away, if I understand things correctly. You’re supposed to start 3 months from now, but my understanding is they’re not going to take any action the first 3 months â it’s a grace period.
The only thing implementing it early will accomplish is a reduction in traffic and customers. You don’t want to make age verification mandatory until October 15th. And a lot can happen between now and then.
Exactly, I sure as hell won’t want to be the first one to try. Once the big tube sites start then maybe.
Interesting that the fine has been removed, what does that mean for all the free sites that don’t use billing providers or need those kind of services? What’s the incentive to do anything? Isn’t there then a risk that many less legal sites will just ignore it and create a unequal situation… where those of us who worry about it and implement age check will just lose out to those who don’t care.
No I think this is it, the official date and guidelines have now been published.
Apparently the penalty will be the UK government asking/requiring UK ISPs to block your IP or domain. So you’ll lose all UK traffic rather than just some/most UK traffic.
AV Secure just sent an useful message:
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[TD=“class: x_txtsize”] [h=1]Breaking news[/h] [h=1]Age Verification Update from AVSecure[/h]
April 2019
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[TD=“class: x_txtsize”] [SIZE=12px] [/SIZE] [HR][/HR][HR][/HR][SIZE=12px]The UK Government has announced the start date for enforcement of age verification as the 15th July.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=12px]You can find the Government press release HERE[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=12px]This also runs in parallel to the official “Age Verification Certificate” (AVC) scheme, just announced, which allows those who pass the stringent criteria and test to display a special green AV “Kite-mark”.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=12px]Consumers will likely be advised against using any systems or methods where the prominent green AV accreditation “Kite-mark” is not displayed.[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=12px]AVSecure has already submitted its application for its AgePass solution and fully expects to be amongst the inaugural batch of certified providers that we are told, will be announced on July 1st or thereabouts.[/SIZE]
The scheme itself, details of which can be found <a href="https://zc1.maillist-manage.eu/click.zc?od=257eca30aa0feccf303640b64ebc8d987&repDgs=1340300a0280de&linkDgs=1340300a0280c5"> [B]HERE[/B]</a>, is a multi-disciplined approach which includes penetration testing, full and detailed audits, operational procedures over and above GDPR and the DPA 2018 (Data Protection Act). There are onerous reporting obligations to the BBFC with subsequent inspection and further audit rights attached.
[B]The scheme appears to have VERY strict rules.[/B]
[B]Some Key Points:[/B]
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- [B]Only the minimum amount of data required to verify a user's age must be used.[/B]
- [B]Identity shall not be verified as part of the process.[/B]
- [B]AV providers must only share a pass or fail to a website and no further information.[/B]
- [B]Physical location data shall not be collected (such as IP address)[/B]
- [B]Personal data used for age verification shall not be used for other purposes such as marketing or the creation of digital wallets.[/B]
- [B]AV providers and solutions shall NOT market other services to the user during or after the age verification process.[/B]
- [B]Users shall be given the option to verify their age without being required to set up an account.[/B]
[SIZE=12px]It is designed to protect consumers data and prevent any system from marketing, harvesting, using or creating personal or user data and keeps the actual age verification process pure.[/SIZE] [SIZE=12px] [/SIZE] [SIZE=12px]Importantly, the age verification guidance does not preclude merchants from carrying out separate and distinct data capture or membership processes, but this must be done [B]AFTER and SEPARATE [/B]from the age verification process itself.[/SIZE] [SIZE=12px] [/SIZE] [SIZE=12px]AVSecure's recommendation is and always has been, that for those merchants looking to use this opportunity to "sign up" or register new members, the best way to do it is immediately [B]AFTER [/B]a quick, smooth, successful, CERTIFIED, simple, non- intrusive AV check has been made ad do it as a separate, optional, flow on process.[/SIZE] [SIZE=12px] [/SIZE] [SIZE=12px]Some solutions or methods may have intended to try and effectively disguise a sign-up scheme by collecting billing details proffered by the user as part of the AV method or to force consumers into a localized platform or marketing product.[/SIZE] [SIZE=12px] [/SIZE] [SIZE=12px][B]These approaches seem to have been firmly stamped out by the details of the certification rules.[/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=12px] [/SIZE] [SIZE=12px][B]AVSecure's FREE age verification system[/B], can solve any issues you may have relating to being able to offer a trusted, accredited product.[/SIZE] [SIZE=12px] [/SIZE] [SIZE=12px]AVSecure offers the [B]widest and most versatile choice for consumers[/B], with at least at [B]8 different[/B] age verification methods.[/SIZE] [SIZE=12px] [/SIZE] [SIZE=12px]As far as we are aware, we are the only solution that is using anonymous blockchain cryptographic credentials and that doesn't collect email addresses or mandate the download of an App.[/SIZE] [SIZE=12px] [/SIZE] [SIZE=12px]Please see the latest product document [B]<a href="https://zc1.maillist-manage.eu/click.zc?od=257eca30aa0feccf303640b64ebc8d987&repDgs=1340300a0280de&linkDgs=1340300a0280c7">HERE</a>[/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=12px] [/SIZE] [SIZE=12px][B]INTEGRATION, TIMELINE AND NEXT STEPS[/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=12px] [/SIZE] [SIZE=12px]We have been testing the AgePass system with key industry partners since last October and we will open our developer section to all on [B]6th May 2019[/B]. [/SIZE] [SIZE=12px] [/SIZE] [SIZE=12px]We are a free service so there are no payments to be made or term-based contracts with merchants and we offer an automatic self-service registration system for merchants with i[B]ntegration options for JavaScript page-only option, server-side PHP and .NET integrations, and a WordPress Plugin[/B], which can be carried out very rapidly. [/SIZE] [SIZE=12px] [/SIZE] [SIZE=12px]We have agreed to undergo our BBFC certification audit testing in Mid-May and then we will release the [B]Consumer facing part of AgePass on[/B] [B]June 3rd,[/B] with options to allow your customers, if you as the merchant so chose, you are able to pre-verify consumers in advance of the 15th of July or simply to deploy the service in full on the Go Live date, Monday July 15th [/SIZE] [SIZE=12px] [/SIZE] [SIZE=12px]The âpre-liveâ page, released on June 3rd, will be the full live product that enables your visitors to pre-verify before the 15th July and has a big ânot now" button so they can continue to access your site without verifying if they so wish. [/SIZE] [SIZE=12px][B]Summary:[/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=12px] [/SIZE] [SIZE=12px][B]6th May -Developer section open [/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=12px][B]3rd June -Full production system with âpre-liveâ sign up option [/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=12px][B]15th July -Full production system with âpre-liveâ removed[/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=12px] [/SIZE] [SIZE=12px]We will let you have the details for the developer section on 6th May and it will also be live on our website <a href="https://zc1.maillist-manage.eu/click.zc?od=257eca30aa0feccf303640b64ebc8d987&repDgs=1340300a0280de&linkDgs=1340300a0280c9"> HERE</a>[/SIZE] [SIZE=12px] [/SIZE] [SIZE=12px]Always here to help and please contact us at any time with any questions you may have and thank you for in advance for your business and trust, we appreciate it.[/SIZE] [SIZE=12px] [/SIZE] [SIZE=12px]Kind regards,[/SIZE] [SIZE=12px] [/SIZE] [SIZE=12px]Steve Winyard[/SIZE] [SIZE=12px]CMO[/SIZE]
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Interesting.
I bet the Age Check companies are not happy about that.
I still think it will quietly disappear
tax money hard at work lol
A part of me agrees, there’s just too much going on and this is a scheme that can never actually work. The only thing it will achieve is to dilute the effort to fight genuine illegal content and massively grow the use of VPN services.
Having said that, we’re about to see a takeover of the UK government by increasingly right-wing politicians, and that never works out well for freedom, diversity and rights. Whoever the next Tory PM is, they’re going to be in the pocket of the ERG (anti-European and far-right) cabal and corporate funders, which is likely to severely damage our country even more, and likely usher in a new age of backward politics.
If people thought Theresa May was bad, just wait until we have Bojo the Clown or Jeremy *unt running the country.
All we can really do is hope for the best, but for those who are still running adult businesses in the UK I would genuinely recommend moving out. The UK is not only unstable for adult business, it’s becoming increasingly unstable for all business and there’s no sign that’s going to change in the long or short term.
You are kidding, right? Right-wing politics never worked out well for freedom, diversity and rights? You clearly have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Could you please tell me what makes you think that behind most horrific terrors in human history are ‘right-wing politicians’? Clearly, I wasn’t paying attention at school because as far as I know, it was the exact opposite that started WWI, WWII and millions of people were killed because of Hitler, Stalin and Mao Zedong, but you have also problems to see the difference between anti-European and anti-European Union.
I am pretty sure that survivors of the Holocaust and other socialist experiments would be super happy if you tell them how people were enjoying freedom, diversity and rights when Hitler, Stalin, Mao Zedong and other communist were in charge. Don’t you have even a little bit of respect for those people?
Yeah we may have made a decission on BREXIT!!!
Should be interesting to see how many from our goverment will be buying a porn pass!!!
Ah, you’re one of those weirdos who thinks Hitler was anything other than far-right. lol
Communist? Give me a fucking break.
Moving on, this is not a discussion worth anyone’s time.
Sure, Sure… Do you know what the origin of ‘Nazism’ is? It’s a shortcut of National Socialism, Nationalsozialismus in German, but I am pretty sure far left-wing will translate it as ‘far-right populism’ right? 
Try to educate yourself first next time 