The Protecting Children from Internet Pornographers Act

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In case some of you have not been following this, a new law that some think is worse than SOPA/PIPA is working its way through congress. The Protecting Children from Internet Pornographers Act (PCIP) would require Internet providers to retain archives of every subscriber’s online activity for up to 18 months, including phone records, credit-card numbers, websites visited and bank-account data.

The law was proposed by Lamar Smith (R-Texas), the same dude who came up with SOPA. The reason this will probably pass is because very few politicians have the balls to vote against a law with the title “Protecting Children from Internet Pornographers”, especially in an election year. Ingenious, huh?

More info: Online privacy at-risk with pending legislation

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How will they be able to store all that data? I wonder if the next big service will be some type of Anonymous ISP provider for people living the USA.

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I think everyone knows my opinion on this by now, and I have no doubt that there are still some members here who will resolutely deny that this has anything to do with government control of the internet during a period of increasing social uprising and economic decline.

I wonder if some of the larger names who were less critical of SOPA/PIPA will perform a miraculous u-turn on internet legislation now that it will affect their sales? After all, it’s one thing to support laws that protect their product while destroying the freedom of the internet and personal liberty of millions of people, but quite another if they won’t profit from it.

This is a little strange too, who are the pornographers that the government needs to protect children from, exactly? Is this about preventing inappropriate advertising? In which case, holding parents accountable and using existing filters are the way to go. How will keeping 18 months of internet records prevent anything?

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yeah should be ‘protecting children from stupid parents’ don’t see how record keeping is going to make anyone safer

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yeah should be ‘protecting children from stupid parents’

Or how about a “Protecting Americans from Dumb and Greedy Politicians Act”.

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Maybe people should be working on their own bill?

PAFIC - Protecting America From Internet Censorship

It could have clauses demanding that all politicians disclose their business investments, that their personal finances are monitored and published periodically, that their phone conversations and email are all open to public scrutiny… After all, if we need legislation recording everyone’s internet use for the preceding 18 months to protect kids from “pornographers”, we need something in place to protect citizens from the corrupt politicians wanting to meddle in our personal liberties - and we can’t miss an opportunity to restrict them in the process! :wink:

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[QUOTE=conran;109714]Maybe people should be working on their own bill?

PAFIC - Protecting America From Internet Censorship

It could have clauses demanding that all politicians disclose their business investments, that their personal finances are monitored and published periodically, that their phone conversations and email are all open to public scrutiny… After all, if we need legislation recording everyone’s internet use for the preceding 18 months to protect kids from “pornographers”, we need something in place to protect citizens from the corrupt politicians wanting to meddle in our personal liberties - and we can’t miss an opportunity to restrict them in the process! ;)[/QUOTE]

Ain’t this the fucking truth.

After SOPA/PIPA, I was amazed that so many people came together as one to fight it. That’s not something that normally happens in my observations in our country. Normally, everyone are just sheep… following blindly down any and every road they’re led down, even if that road leads right off the edge of a cliff.

I wonder if we can actually stand up for our freedoms again, or if we’re gonna gladly hand over even more of our privacy rights in the name of ‘protection’.

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[QUOTE=Naughty-Pages;109739]Ain’t this the fucking truth.

After SOPA/PIPA, I was amazed that so many people came together as one to fight it. That’s not something that normally happens in my observations in our country. Normally, everyone are just sheep… following blindly down any and every road they’re led down, even if that road leads right off the edge of a cliff.

I wonder if we can actually stand up for our freedoms again, or if we’re gonna gladly hand over even more of our privacy rights in the name of ‘protection’.[/QUOTE]

We’re the same in the UK unfortunately. People are naive and apathetic to the point of insanity.

There are several things I could list for the UK, but the main one has to be the response to the riots last year. Instead of asking why the police failed to act effectively (there’s footage of them doing nothing while teenagers destroyed entire streets) the public are agreeing with the prospect of using lethal force, we ignore the metal wall being deployed in London, we neglect the fact that the Police have been filmed beating peaceful protesters and dragging a disabled student from his wheelchair and across a road, we forget a man shoved to the ground and killed, we conveniently neglect the fact that the coroner who cleared the police of his manslaughter was found to be corrupt, we forget that they lied to protect themselves, and we ignore that we’re still in the middle of the biggest corruption scandal between the media, government and senior police the UK has probably ever seen… and we still think the measures being implemented are “for our own good”!

Unfortunately, I do believe that we will see it all come to an inevitable conclusion at some point in the future. Just look at every other nation where the same draconian measures are put in place. It may have taken decades to get to it, but it’s resulting in revolutions. People may blindly go along with it now, but when government corruption and the removal of freedoms and liberties starts to affect a considerable number of the population, the people will rise up against it.

I’m reminded of a quote “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.” - John F. Kennedy.

We’re expecting to see more union and student protests this year, and it wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest to see them become violent. We saw Iain Duncan Smith state - for the record - that peaceful protest in the streets against government decisions will not be listened to at all. When you have your own government stating on live TV that the grievances of their own citizens will be completely ignored, there is a major problem with democratic government. That’s how you end up with Tahrir Square.