No more sales near minimum payout

Like any affiliate, I selected some programs to promote. But I noticed that payments are not coming so easy.

I made sales especially after I quit promoting them or I made sales until the total was near the minimum payment. After that… Silence!

I used all methods to improve that: more posts to promote their content, traffic analysis, etc.

I thought that I have less traffic, different taste audience, end or beginning of the year or so but nothing…

If that happened to just one program, I could say that it’s bad luck. But the same happened to more such as BoyProfits or zBucks.

I was wandering if this happened to others. Is this a widespread strategy?

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Any chance you can email or PM me with your affiliate account info and websites? I’d like to take a look at your account and see what we can do to get it converting better so we can send you that minimum payout! :wink:

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This happen with RandyBlue, I have emailed them and they never return an email.

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Personally, I think you should do a test transaction. Sure, you will loose some money, but there is no better way to test out the program to make sure, the program is being honest. Especially with all these mergers and stuff and programs using their own in house programs I think we all take it for granted that the program will be honest or even set things up correctly. Don’t do it today or tomorrow, pick a random date in the future, throw a dart on the calendar and buy a membership and see what happens.

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And check the TOS from that sponsor BEFORE doing any test transactions. Some do not allow it. You could be terminated.

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If that is their TOS and want to hide behind that and the test transaction shows that the sales is not recording, I’d rather be terminated than keep promoting it. Especially according to NATS website under “Features:”

Payouts configurable per Affiliate, Site Option and Program
Once the default payouts for each program has been configured in NATS, you may override the payout for a specific affiliate, tour, country, biller, or site. This lets you change an individual affiliate’s pay rate without having to create an entirely new program for the higher rate, and also allows you to pay different rates for promoting different sites.

Sounds like to me the program owner can change things around whenever they want. What stops them from downgrading your account without you knowing?

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Faulty tracking software… intentional skimming of clicks/sales… those are genuine concerns, yes.

What concerns me the most is that since joining this forum, I’ve repeatedly read the “horror stories” of people not getting responses from sponsors or account reps UNTIL something is posted on this forum… then the sponsors/reps come crawling out of the woodwork so fast it makes your head spin!!! Why is this?

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[QUOTE=OldSchool;108893]Faulty tracking software… intentional skimming of clicks/sales… those are genuine concerns, yes.

What concerns me the most is that since joining this forum, I’ve repeatedly read the “horror stories” of people not getting responses from sponsors or account reps UNTIL something is posted on this forum… then the sponsors/reps come crawling out of the woodwork so fast it makes your head spin!!! Why is this?[/QUOTE]

I second that… I always email directly first before posting on a public forum… 99% of the time no answer… Then once posted to the forum you get a bogus excuse of oh it went to spam or some shit like that. I have very limited spam control on all my accounts… I prefer to get my mail and have to manually delete a few here and there than not get an important email.

I really like the idea of test transactions on poorly performing affiliates… I never through about that but you know what… If they aren’t paying me and they aren’t counting my sales does it really matter as gaypornoblogger pointed out. I would even take that a step further though… They mentioned you would lose money by trying it… I beg to differ… If I ran a test transaction for an affiliate that was performing poorly and then found out they were skimming sales I would do a chargeback on that sale and immediately cease all promotion of that sponsor and post a notice on the forums as to my findings.

I’m not talking about abusing the system more keeping it honest… If you have sent multiple thousands of legitimate hits with zero signups (I have a handful of them) maybe there is a problem. Shouldn’t someone be exposing those who may actually be skimming or do we instead just decide you know what I’m not going to promote them anymore and let the next fool who comes along send them thousands more hits and so on an so on. If someone actually exposed them in the past then i wouldn’t be the the fool with the handful of under performing sites.

Thoughts?

Sincerely,
Kevin.

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[QUOTE=mountequinox;108899]I second that… I always email directly first before posting on a public forum… 99% of the time no answer… Then once posted to the forum you get a bogus excuse of oh it went to spam or some shit like that. I have very limited spam control on all my accounts… I prefer to get my mail and have to manually delete a few here and there than not get an important email.

I really like the idea of test transactions on poorly performing affiliates… I never through about that but you know what… If they aren’t paying me and they aren’t counting my sales does it really matter as gaypornoblogger pointed out. I would even take that a step further though… They mentioned you would lose money by trying it… I beg to differ… If I ran a test transaction for an affiliate that was performing poorly and then found out they were skimming sales I would do a chargeback on that sale and immediately cease all promotion of that sponsor and post a notice on the forums as to my findings.

I’m not talking about abusing the system more keeping it honest… If you have sent multiple thousands of legitimate hits with zero signups (I have a handful of them) maybe there is a problem. Shouldn’t someone be exposing those who may actually be skimming or do we instead just decide you know what I’m not going to promote them anymore and let the next fool who comes along send them thousands more hits and so on an so on. If someone actually exposed them in the past then i wouldn’t be the the fool with the handful of under performing sites.

Thoughts?

Sincerely,
Kevin.[/QUOTE]

I have personally, never minded anyone doing a test transaction for any program i have worked on. Just as long as they tell me about it after so i can refund the PPS / REV Sale ^_^!

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I also don’t have a problem with anyone that wants to do a test transaction with us. Just be sure to email me afterwards so we can refund the transaction for you. :slight_smile:

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By the way I’m working on a plan to get your conversions up as I type this vlad30bi so you will have another PM very soon :wink:

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Thank you all for your comments. It sounds as a good idea to test some affiliate programs from time to time with test conversions. I will take a look on them not to break TOS.
Thanks dannyz from zBuckz for the support. He’s so supportive and I hope we’ll work better from now on.