My Rentboy alternative idea: Legally foolproof?

Here’s the idea: An escort-type business where all the models bring one crucial item with them when they visit a client: a video camera. Clients are told up front that their interaction will be filmed, with the model giving the client the memory card, video tape or whatever medium the sex act was recorded on at the end of their session. The client can do whatever they want with the video, keep it for their private use, upload it to their own “gonzo porn” website or whatever.

Isn’t this basically what Jake Cruise has been doing all these years?

The idea should be legally protected because of first amendment rights, the same that protect other gonzo porn makers, right? This isn’t prostitution, it’s independent (porn) film-making!

So what do you think, does my new idea stand a chance of succeeding and avoiding landing anyone in jail?

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Except for the fact that the mere mention of a video camera will scare 90% of people away.

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[QUOTE=naked;163392]Here’s the idea: An escort-type business where all the models bring one crucial item with them when they visit a client: a video camera. Clients are told up front that their interaction will be filmed, with the model giving the client the memory card, video tape or whatever medium the sex act was recorded on at the end of their session. The client can do whatever they want with the video, keep it for their private use, upload it to their own “gonzo porn” website or whatever.

The idea should be legally protected because of first amendment rights, the same that protect other gonzo porn makers, right? This isn’t prostitution, it’s independent (porn) film-making!

So what do you think, does my new idea stand a chance of succeeding and avoiding landing anyone in jail?[/QUOTE]

Well, for starters - what’s your intention? Is it to make a movie or to engage in prostitution? If it’s the latter, then it’s a crime in all 50 states.

Steve

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This is a loophole which would be quickly closed if people actually ran with it.

I don’t believe it’s as simple as “intention” as Steve says, because that can’t be easily defined. It’s the same with prostitution on the street, you have to catch them in the act of actually making that deal before you can arrest. The same applies in this case, you can’t arrest just on the belief that they’re engaging in prostitution rather than film-making, just because you want it to be so.

Intention in this case is open to interpretation. Why would this be any different to POV film-making where the one shooting it is in on the action? He’s doing exactly the same as suggested here, but he’s actually making a video out of it.

What if someone set up a site to release amateur videos of them and their customer, with full agreement? Is that porn or prostitution? Does it solely depend on who has the video in their possession at the end of it? Who is paying who? What if they both have a copy?

Like I said though, it would soon be made to be criminal when enough people are doing it, the definitions of what porn is would likely be changed and not for the better.

If those making the decisions on this were rational we wouldn’t be having this debate right now and prostitution would be legal already. They’re not rational, they’re driven by their religious beliefs, their conservative nonsense and the desire to make millions follow their notions of “morality”.

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AND most escorts are porn stars who don’t want amateur videos of them floating around out there since it may ruin their image/brand. So you scare off 90% of the escorts as well.

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I can see everyone uploading the videos creating another reason why subscriptions won’t sell. But then again, they are two separate businesses that probably does not care how it will affect the other.

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Also, it’s more than just getting a camera in the room. Everyone would need to sign 2257 documents and releases as well.

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I had a similar thought, an acting school for aspiring porn stars. You get a one-on-one acting lesson with a real pro! :smiley:

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its still only legal to make porn in CA and New Hampshire…everywhere else its still legally prostitution.

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[QUOTE=desslock;163396]Well, for starters - what’s your intention? Is it to make a movie or to engage in prostitution? If it’s the latter, then it’s a crime in all 50 states.

Steve[/QUOTE]

steve is correct.

the models would all be posting in their listings things like “don’t worry about the camera - it’s just there to keep things legal”, so law enforcement would easily be able to prove that there’s no intentions of using the videos, ergo it’s not a porn shoot but a liaison. not to mention you’d then have to have each guy bring a model release and have it filled out, initialed, dated and signed, and i would think that zero clients would be willing to sign a legal document giving all rights to the video of their sexual liaison to a company who could literally turn around at that point and put it on a website. let’s not forget 2257, which would mean the escorts would also have to get a copy of each client’s i.d.

beyond pimping and pandering and living off the earnings of a prostitute, this would also create additional charges regarding evading justice, conspiracy to commit and a few others that come to mind.

what a fun idea! you could do group workshops, too.