Hey there this is my first post on this forum and I want to introduce myself. I am Steven the creator and owner of http://teenboysmilk.com
My site has been up for a little over 3 months and has seen an explosion in popularity in a PURELY organic fashion. My traffic is mostly from the USA and mostly ORGANIC. This is a free video tube that I designed myself with a premium wordpress theme.
I have put a lot of hours into this. I need advice on what you experienced webmaster think would convert the best for my traffic. As I said it is organic traffic gotten through old fashioned SEO. I am from the mainstream emarketing world and spent many years doing SEO.
Here is a screen shot showing the rapid rise in my traffic in just the first half of this month alone:
I have been trying to monetize my traffic for a month now with not much success. I started with crakrevenue and made over a 100 dollars but the conversions are complete crap.
I just a couple of days ago decided to plunge into AWEMPIRE and promote their offers. I have yet to see any conversions for their PPS program. I know with that program folks need to sign up for free and eventually buy “credits” for me to get paid but it makes me angry that they do not inform their affiliates of how many free signups are occuring. For all I know I could have hundreds of free signups by now. All they show in stats in unique/raw and then sales.
ANY WAY i do not want to be long winded if there is anyone here that can help me with some good advice WITHOUT just trying to peddle crap to me I would appreciate it. Also if there are any webmasters with high volume traffic that would be willing to do me a favor and link trade with me that would be great!
Welcome to the community. I just took a look at your site and here are some thoughts:
You have yet another tube site (the 99.999.999th on Earth) with a cheap and not very good looking wordpress theme. So you invested roughly a couple of dollars and some hours of work and expect to start making money. It just doesn’t work like that I’m afraid :happy:
You don’t create any valuable content, you just put up links from xvideos and other larger tube sites. So you don’t even go through the hassle of uploading your own content.
To make money you need to get affiliated with some sponsors. By the looks of the content you pick, you want twinks. That would be us, Helix, BoyCrush etc. Problem is I just spent 30 seconds on your site and found 5 full videos from our site. So no way in hell will we ever accept you as an affiliate. Same goes for pretty much every other sponsors that would fit your traffic and content. I know those videos weren’t stolen by you because they are from XVideos, but still no sponsor will accept you as long as you push these stolen videos.
In regards to AWEmpire and other cams, it really takes time until you catch some serious buyers. You could get lucky fast (highly unlikely) but most of the times you have to wait and send them a ton of traffic and more to catch some buyers.
I hope you understand this is the best advice I can give you and I am not trying to peddle crap at you: work on that site, make it look better, start actually putting some effort into uploading / creating your own content and avoid publishing stolen videos. Then, maybe then, you will start making money.
Despite what everybody seems to think, making money off porn is not easy and you can’t expect earning money with just posting some stolen videos on a wordpress install.
First of all only about 30 percent of the videos are embeds from xvideos. The rest were manually uploaded and hosted on my own bandwidth. Secondly It is pure opinion that my site doesn’t “look good” lol. I think it looks fine. Much better than most tube sites which use the crappy so called “premium” adult tube scripts that auto embed everything they all look the same.
As for STOLEN. The vast majority of my content is not stolen it is SCREEN CAPPED from live chats on a website that I will not name. I am sure you are smart enough to figure out what site I am speaking of. One of the top tube sites in my niche DOES THE SAME THING and is currently getting over 40 thousand uniques a day after only existing for a year. People who jerk off on a public cam feed outside of a private paid membership agreement are up for grabs. They can always request directly for their vid to be taken down but these are individuals not content producers. Now, as for the smaller percentage of videos that are either embeds from xvideos and or self hosted that are from professional content producers, these videos are those companies own teasers and are watermarked for the purposes of promotion and not direct sales.
Please do not accuse me of STEALING content with no grounds to make such accusations. Helix and Boycrush use watermarked vids for affiliate promo and just to have free content out there to tease their product. If you really are indeed affiliated with either of them and you take offense to these watermarked vids being shown to my traffic then by all means ask me to taker it down and I will.
The way you trivialize my weeks and weeks and countless sleepless nights of uploading, tagging, and building as nothing more than “posting stolen videos to a wordpress install” is so ignorant. Then again the adult emarketing industry seems to be almost forgetful these days of SEO and the hard work it entails. What a warm welcome.
A warm welcome indeed.
If anyone else has actual advice instead of attacks please feel free …
Lol stealing again. It is not stealing. If you put yourself out there in public that content belongs to the internet. What you are doing is not “criticism”, it is an attack. I can take constructive criticism very well and in fact am open to it as I find that in many cases it can lead to improvements but you just straight up attacked me bro. So stick by your word and don;t reply again.
Look, there is a huge amount of promo content available for you to use if you sign up as an affiliate. But it requires time and lots of work. And its great that you are asking questions and trying to understand how it works.
But what you currently are doing is using content not provided for promo and then trying to make money out of it from other programs that have nothing to do with the content. Is a big no no… In simple terms your are selling oranges using apples as adverts.
Affiliate marketing works by using promotional content provided by a sponsor but can only be used to promote their site, not someone else.
Its a dangerous mistake to think that something “belongs to the internet”, everything online is owned or copyrighted in some way. If you use content no matter if its hosted by someone else, you are putting yourself at risk for being sued, or at best eventually gettimg your site shut down.
Lets start with (Staxus) I did not upload that video to xvideos you will need to take it up with them.
The heelix studios video is NOT from their member area and is widely available all over the internet.
The Belami videos are indeed the exception and I will admit that while they are old as hell they are from their members area. That video will be taken down and thank you for letting me know.
To GayDemon: The statement “belongs to the internet” is in reference to the clips that are capped from a FREE webcam site that does not sell a premium membership of any kind. Their own DMCA and TOS literally disavow their responsibility to protect the likeness of people appearing on their site. I will not be sued for embedding videos from a third party. I have had no problem being accepted into many ad networks and affiliate networks so obviously they see no issues.
“affiliate marketing works by using promo content provided by sponsor…”
Maybe one model works that way but I am not looking to be tied down by any one sponsor. I am building a website I would want to go to and a site that has everything I and others would want in one place. I am all about SEO not embedding iframes of some sponsors video tube on my website. This is more than just a money making venture to me it has become a passion in some way. I will continue on. If you do some research the top ten results in Google for the keywords I target are using many of the same methods and they are very successful. They have no ONE sponsor. These rogues not only make A LOT of money but they provide a service to people. I am sorry if that upsets content producers and or greedy sponsors but that is the way not only I see it but other webmasters as well.
GayDemon thank you for being polite and trying to advise me but I think there is some over reacting going on here.
This is a great forum and this is not how I wanted to be welcomed. You folks have a nice day and good luck with your current ventures.
I think you’re missing the point still. You make a lot of assumptions that’s incorrect. Any work created, be it text, images or videos is under copyright protection of the person creating it. There is no such law that says “belongs to the internet”.
Just because you can see a video hosted on another site by staxus, belami etc does not mean it’s legal or can be used. If you use that video and it’s stolen from the copyright owner you’re just as responsible as the person stealing it in the first case.
You base your assumption on the concept that if someone else does so can I, that is the worst possible thing you can do.
again that phrase “belongs to the internet” was exclusively referring to the screen caps of live cam feeds. I am not liable for any copyrighted material uploaded to third partys
lol my real time analytics show someone has clicked my link from here and been on my site for quite a while…still is… fapping? or just trying to find more instances of theft?
Every single video or file ever created belongs to the creator. Automatically. Nothing, I repeat, nothing “belongs to the internet”. Those “free” cam site videos you are ripping belong to the model that created the video and/or the cam site itself.
Your site has several full length videos that belong to major studios, ex: BelAmi, Helix, etc and I expect that you and Hostgator (who prohibits this sort of thing) will be getting DMCA notices soon.
Your site is littered with pop-ups, redirected clicks, and a LOT of video heavy ads. Not good.
You are posting this message in a forum where the people that create these videos you have stolen frequent. On top of that, the people here do not generally support anyone that tries to cheat or steal from others. This kind of thing hurts our entire industry and is not tolerated.
You have a lot to learn about this industry and you’ve gotten off on the wrong foot for sure. Maybe if you clean up your site, post videos created specifically for promotion use and come back with a more positive attitude you might be better off.
Dude I really DGAF. The cam screen caps are not copyrighted in any way you are WRONG. The only video I have admitted I should take down is Belami. All others are free to anyone who wants them anywhere.
Not littered with pop ups. I have one pop under script that only pops one time per user with a 48 hour cookie. I have only 5 thumbnails that redirect to an offer.
Video heavy ads? Please elaborate.
Also you butt mad studio fags really don’t scare me just ta let ya know. I have a channel set up on my website for DMCA requests so if anyone wants something taken down they are more than welcome to formally request it. I have not had ONE affiliate/webmaster respond to this thread. this site is full of snobby fucking pricks who think their foreskin smegma is made of pure gold and that they shoot loads of warm milky diamond encrusted semen. As I said IDGAF ban my account delete this thread and proceed to go sit on a fucking flag pole.
Belamionline that content is being taken down as we speak. I apologize for that lapse in judgement it was out of ignorance and not malicious intent It did not do well on my site anyway.
BelAmi… What’s the going rate for us “gold foreskin smegma diamond encrusted semen fags” to get for each copyright violation these days per video? By my quick glance he had at least 5 full length videos from major studios posted.
lol guess not ANYWAYS please contact me if you are the owner of content and want it taken down. If heelix is a member here please let me know. As far as I know those heelix vids are already on many free websites. No reason to issue DMCA notices and get our lawyers involved just ask. JUST ASK. I have contact form for such things on site
