How to sell AEBN?

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#1

Does anyone have any tips? Ive got my blog and I have a custom theatre, I need to get people into it. So far Ive started doing some posts (example here). Any tips on making that better? Am I even on the right lines? I will say im not good at blogs so any tips would be greatfully recieved :slight_smile:

Im undecided about offering a free promo, like the 10 minutes free. Im half thinking it gets them in there, but half of me thinks it will stop them from buying the video as they will get it for free.

#2

Re: How to sell AEBN?

i’ve never done well with aebn by trying to sell a particular video. my best sales come from marketing and linking to a niche that there’s lots of content for - and then only if the videos showing on the first page are accurate for. the last time i looked, half the videos in muscle had covers that don’t show muscular guys and it didn’t sell to real muscle traffic. on the other hand, jackoff traffic did well.

i’d be interested to hear how blogs do for anyone with pay per view - i must admit that paysites generally make a lot more money for me than pay per view.

#3

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Thanks for that Basschick. Maybe I should also link to the niche in posts. My thing is Im not sure how to push them into the theatre as the wont click the video on demand link on their own. Their funny little buggers :slight_smile:

Thing is with Gremlins, its not a blog as such. Its more of a content portal but using wordpress as a cms and and its blog style. So Im trying to cover a few bases. Its a blog with an identity crisis :slight_smile:

#4

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have you tried linking to their free clips of the day? that’s how i’ve had the best luck:

Click for free BEAR CLIP of the day

#5

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We have their daily videos on some of our sites and tried the free minute promos with very bad results. We refered 157 members the last months and made only 130$ or so from it…

I think there are way better sponsors to promote, I just have those videos on my sites for gaining bookmarkers…

#6

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I think the idea is that if you keep going youll get the odd whale.

#7

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Right well Ive put the clip of the day up and the latest videos (which is both meant to display by niche of the post but AEBNs niches are picked out of thin air it seems) and put up 15 mins free.

100boys, where did you get 3 mins free as I cant see that?

Ill report back if I actually get anywhere. Im sure there are others interested in how to do it so anything I figure out that seems to work, Ill post about it.

#8

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Marc,

I’m sure Nina will be able to help you out on a more specific level, since she’s more familiar with your account, and I deal more with studios than affiliates; however I figured that I’d chime in on a few things that that I’ve seen, which might help, across the board to anyone.

I’ll be including a lot of information that most of the more experienced webmasters here will already be aware of, but that I’m adding in for the newer kids on the block – a la BassChick’s ‘newbie’ thread.

First, AEBN’s business model isn’t a ‘fishing for the big whale’ kind of business model. Yes, some people that will by that 1000-minute package, but most people fall in that in-between range. First-time buyers generally buy somewhat smaller packages to ‘test the waters’ with, then slowly find their way into the middle as they get both more comfortable, and more confident in the VOD format.

The PPV system, for affiliates in general, was designed as more of an investment model. Say… a salmon farm as opposed to that deep-sea fishing gig. (I’ll stick to that fishing metaphor of yours). This and the buying habits that I mentioned earlier will show you a smaller, more fluctuating gross at the beginning, that grows larger and more stable with time, since the members that sign up with you are yours in perpetuity.

Right now, you’re using ‘video on demand’ as the text in your top and sidebar menu link. I know that this lets your viewers know what they’re getting in to, but I’d actually suggest against it since you’re trying to incorporate your theatre into your site. Coming up with a catchy-themed name for your theatre would help fill that seam in and smooth it over (I’m assuming that you’re wanting to integrate the theatre into your site - I’ll tell you why in just a minute). Using something similar to “Gremlin Vision”, or “Gremlin Cinema”, or “Gremlin Auditorium”, etc. will help you accomplish this while still letting your surfers know that they’re going to be going directly to a viewing system. Those are just the first three names that popped into my head – feel free to come up with something more appropriate.

Another thing that I can suggest, that I’ve seen help immensely in the past, is to CName your theatre. Since you’re using a custom theatre meant to mimic your site, I’m assuming that you want your viewers to not know that they’re actually leaving your site. If you weren’t intending on trying to fool the surfer into thinking the theatre is just another section on your page, you would probably want to be using one of the “(insertnamehere)payperview.com” sites.

The Cname (if you didn’t know, and to the newbies that don’t) replaces the domain name for a particular page with an alias, which shows in the URL bar. This gives you the ability to hide the fact that the viewer is leaving your site and going to one hosted by us.

I’d strongly recommend using the name of the theatre (like Gremlin Vision from the example above) as a sub-domain or directory. Though that might be a bit long for your website. (http://www.gayporngremlins.com/gremlinvision). You could always just opt into getting the gremlinvision.com URL and using that. I’d venture to say that the names are close enough to your main site’s URL to not matter.

Cnaming your theatre is actually quite simple, there are instructions in your theatre builder in the web master’s area, and your rep can help walk you through it if you have any trouble.

One last thing-

I see that you’ve made use of both the free clip and the hosted movie updates on the left hand margin, which is very awesome. The Movie Updates is one of our newer sales tools, so let us know how well it works out for you - we really appreciate the feedback!

However, I would probably separate them a bit; since that means you have three of our sales tools sitting right atop one another. The theatre link in the top menu bar, then again at the left top margin; directly under that the free clip; and then the movie updater.

If your viewers clicked on one, decided to come back to the home page; clicked on the next one, found out that it went to pretty much the same place; and then came back a third time to find that yet again they were directed to the exact same sponsor - they might get a little frustrated. Surfers might assume that you’re in actuality giving only one link… even though the rest of the options on your page do in fact go elsewhere.

Break up the tools a bit. Say… pull the Movie Updater down under your Friend’s link list. This pulls it down past the page break - If your viewers are systematically going through the posts, it might be an interesting diversion from that repetitive clicking. (I know I’m easily distracted when surfing - you can use this to your advantage, as long as you don’t give them -too- much all at once.) This could give them a nice break from the post listing to say “Oh yeah, I meant to go check that out earlier!”

Combined with the earlier efforts to integrate the theatre into your website, the surfer will come back to watch in your theatre… but also check out what’s new on the rest of the site as well. Since there aren’t any traffic leaks in our custom theatres, you don’t have to worry about your surfers wandering off into the porno-sphere elsewhere. The only link out of the theatre is the banner at the top, which takes the viewer back to your homepage.

To the ‘New Webmasters on the Block’ - these are just a few suggestions and tips that I’ve found while working at AEBN that can be applied just about across the board, and as I said earlier – your own reps should be able to give you much more tailored advice in regards to your specific sites. Also – don’t be afraid to ask the webmasters around here some more specific questions about how certain sales tools have worked out for them in the places that they’ve used them. They have the first-hand experience that only time gives, and can be of great assistance. BassChick and the crew here are a wonderful resource for information as long as you’re respectful.

We reps may not run a site of our very own, but I still learn more every time I’m here and on other boards, to better incorporate what I do with what you webmsters do.

Kindest regards,

Trevor :wink:

#9

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Wow what a great post, thanks very much Trevor! I will be making all of the changes you suggest!!

#10

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Thanks, Marc -

I appreciate that. The thing is, that a lot of times what might work well for one webmaster’s site won’t necessarily work for yours, or your viewers. A lot of the information that the webmasters here have gleaned has come from trial and error, ‘playing around’ with different approaches, and gaging how the viewers like it. It’s especially true when moving from niche to niche, and model to model. Just ask someone that has multiple sites with varied types of content. Even someone that has pretty similar content from site to site can see differences on how well received a particular product is received, dependent upon how it’s presented.

You’ve got the right idea in trying something out in getting the fundamentals, and getting as much information as you can about other people’s demographics but then fiddling with that information for a while back and forth in a bunch of different ways to temper it with results for your visitors. Just keep on truckin’ and you’ll figure out what works best for you.

Best of luck,

Trevor

#11

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AEBN sells very good for us. Once you get a lot members under you the money really builds up fast and the members stick with it. Try promoting their free galleries, that is what works for us.

#12

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Do you have a TGP then? I mean would you put galleries on a blog style site?