Cuil - rival to google???

hi all,

I am not 100% up to date with all the tgp and fgp and all that stuff - but I know you guys need to be out there in search engines and stuff.

So — I read an article at the bbc

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7528503.stm

about cuil.com - a new search engine and rival (?) to google.

http://www.cuil.com

there is also a page about their crawler

http://www.cuil.com/info/webmaster_info/

to get your sites indexed.

Anyway - it seems that EX-employees of google have started this up and I just thought thay it might be good for you guys to jump on the bandwagon.

Maybe this has a chance to rival google and their dominance and quirky way of dealing with porn and making us pay more for porn ads and stuff.

Hendrik

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I pray daily that something would rival Google. I have had experience with Google, that I am not really going to share here, but that company has a monopoly like no other, and something needs to put it in place. I was hoping the Microsoft / Yahoo merger would go through, and I am still holding out hope. Google has WAYYY too much power, and it isn’t good for anyone.

[QUOTE=fetishlad;17286]hi all,

I am not 100% up to date with all the tgp and fgp and all that stuff - but I know you guys need to be out there in search engines and stuff.

So — I read an article at the bbc

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7528503.stm

about cuil.com - a new search engine and rival (?) to google.

http://www.cuil.com

there is also a page about their crawler

http://www.cuil.com/info/webmaster_info/

to get your sites indexed.

Anyway - it seems that EX-employees of google have started this up and I just thought thay it might be good for you guys to jump on the bandwagon.

Maybe this has a chance to rival google and their dominance and quirky way of dealing with porn and making us pay more for porn ads and stuff.

Hendrik[/QUOTE]

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i tried it yesterday - worst search results i ever saw! i looked up several sites including gaydemon by name. all the first page results for the gaydemon search were pages and sites that simply keyword spammed or used a script to generate terms. also got some 404s and other errors, and there were intermittent slowages.

they have a long way to go…

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i dont think that they will be a rival to google as their results are about as crappi as the ones that microsofts live delivers. Yes yes I know I compared them to the results that google delivered for the term but IMO their results are more on target for the term I used. And I don’t even own the sites that was in the results.

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Same!

I saw an article on DrudgeReport about Cuil yesterday and did multiple searches for stuff and all were crap.

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I also tried it yesterday and found their results far less than desirable.

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microsoft could not make the smallest dent in google after releasing live.com, and that was with the power of MS installing it as the default s.e. for windows for a while plus the $$ it threw behind it too…so I doubt cuil will (not to mention, it sounds like queer and I am sure that will get some homophobes up in arms).

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The search results for ‘bareback’ are laughable… Bareback Jack got listed, but next to his listing is a picture of a sign saying “Welcome to the Palisades Interstate Parkway”. Like, what does that have to do with Bareback Jack, or even barebacking (horse or sexual)?

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and one of the top ten results is “Suspended Website”, indicating it was crawled recently to get the updated data, but that data was not properly analysed. Yikes, searching around for other terms gives a lot of suspended website and 404 error pages in the top 10 too.

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I just thought it might be good for you submitters to let you know - the point of starting this thread is not having people moan about cuil, but to submit your sites - so you get up on page 1 - and subsequently help another new product grow and be successful.

Also: moderators - can you please do something about almost every thread being hijacked by bareback?

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the title of the thread is Cuil - rival to google??? and that’s what we’re all talking about - cuil. unless i missed something - and since i’m about to head off to bed, that’s entirely possible - someone did a search on cuil and used bareback as a term, and reported his findings. that seems highly relevant to the subject, no?

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No not quite yet lol

[quote=fetishlad;17312]I just thought it might be good for you submitters to let you know - the point of starting this thread is not having people moan about cuil, but to submit your sites - so you get up on page 1 - and subsequently help another new product grow and be successful.

Also: moderators - can you please do something about almost every thread being hijacked by bareback?[/quote]

I did also look today, read about it on BBC News, but as the rest of you search results are simply rubbish. I can’t see it rival any search engine in this state.

Saying that, did anyone try non porn searches?

But still who knows, early days. I wonder what tools they will make available for webmasters. From what I can see there is no straight forward sign of how they decide on relevance.

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i did try non porn searches. i tried the name of my tapemeasure (yeah, well, it was just sitting in front of me) and got some real results and some bogus pages created by scripts to steal the top spots. the pics showing weren’t relevant in several cases. i tried the company arie works for and one of the results had a politically inflammatory picture, one had a pic of teddy bears and one had a pic of a candle, and one of the results was a listing in another search engine. there was also a few bs script created pages including one that listed the company name as a shoe brand, when they make high end scientific prototypes. there was also a link to This Site Has Been Suspended.

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Amazon’s A1 (or whatever is was called) was suppose to turn the search engine world upside down. Never did. IMHO, CUIL has turned it upside down. You can’t find anything you search for.

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[quote=gaydemon;17326]
But still who knows, early days. I wonder what tools they will make available for webmasters. From what I can see there is no straight forward sign of how they decide on relevance.[/quote]

That is why I thought I brought it up here after doing several searches - the strangest sites do come up - sites you don’t even know you are on … maybe these site owners have been faster than we have with submitting their sites.

I do think we all have a big role to play in making a google rival a success - how many of us have the “no thanks” (on the index page) button directed to google? (I have)

Has any of us submitted our sites yet? I don’t think so (including me)

I do think this one has potential - it looks different - I would love to know how to get a thumbnail next to a site - AND it is made by ex-google employees - so they have the knowledge to build something as powerful.

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That is true still - but does anyone know when this cuil was launched?

it does say: “Search 121,617,892,992 web pages” - that sounds like a lot - but isn’t really - it says pages …

— by the way - it is pronounced COOL …

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Is there actually a submission page / add your site page?

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Sorry, I just checked.

No there is no submission page. The only way to get included is to emailing one of the guys who runs it… which sort of says it all. Its a small operation. Its going to take a very long time for it to get anywhere.

Someone else did something similiar for a gay search engine. They created a spider or robot which indexed anything gay related. The problem is, the spider part is easy to do. But the spider picks up anything and everything. The hard part is to make it relevant and give good search results.

The guys who did the gay version ended up with one huge database of spam.