Re: Console or reality for a paysite now a days?
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Re: Console or reality for a paysite now a days?
damn i missed it, anything good 
anyhoot let me give a crack at the examples and Simon can correct me if they are wrong:
Console
http://www.blondebuddies.com/
Reality:
http://www.uknakedmen.com/
Granted there might be better reality examples out there but am sure this Xstr8Guys site will give you the idea of what it was Simon wanted to knowâŚ
And to answer the question, i think that Reality is doing better these days especially if you keep it updated with the new releases⌠Reality sites with the same âepisodesâ on the front page for month after month will see a decline in repeat visitors i thinkâŚ
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i guess i canât see what that would be called a âconsoleâ tour - looks like a standard tour to me. and a really well done standard tour still sells great for me, only most of them are done rather poorly imo.
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As a surfer, console tours always scream âbullshitâ with their wild claims of thousands of pics and videos, live chat, blah blah blah ⌠Iâm sure tons of surfers still get sucked in, but the experienced surfer will have had a couple of go-arounds with these types of sites and be leery of them.
And more and more, the console type tours have been abandoned by gay-owned sites. A lot of the console sites seem to be largely run by the straight programs wanting a piece of the gay pie.
Michael
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[QUOTE=dzinerbear;11553]As a surfer, console tours always scream âbullshitâ with their wild claims of thousands of pics and videos, live chat, blah blah blah ⌠Iâm sure tons of surfers still get sucked in, but the experienced surfer will have had a couple of go-arounds with these types of sites and be leery of them.
And more and more, the console type tours have been abandoned by gay-owned sites. A lot of the console sites seem to be largely run by the straight programs wanting a piece of the gay pie.
Michael[/QUOTE]
To be honest as surfer I like console more than reality.
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[QUOTE=Mickey;11541]damn i missed it, anything good
anyhoot let me give a crack at the examples and Simon can correct me if they are wrong:
Console
http://www.blondebuddies.com/
Reality:
http://www.uknakedmen.com/
Granted there might be better reality examples out there but am sure this Xstr8Guys site will give you the idea of what it was Simon wanted to knowâŚ
And to answer the question, i think that Reality is doing better these days especially if you keep it updated with the new releases⌠Reality sites with the same âepisodesâ on the front page for month after month will see a decline in repeat visitors i thinkâŚ[/QUOTE]
Just to clarify, UKNM may have a reality-style tour but it is not a reality site. We are really at the opposite end of the spectrum from reality. We are more of a fantasy site. Generally our videos have themes that involve story, wardrobe, unique sets and (gasp!) sometimes scripted dialogue. There is never any of that âstraight guy gets paid to be blownâ stuff on UKNM.
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not all str8 guy sites are reality sites - in fact, many are not. reality tours are what some people call video tours - the old topbucks reality tours are a good example, like his first huge cock or nastydollarsâ boys first time. reality porn, which is always a scripted fantasy that pretends to be real, usually includes a street pickup (or mall or bar or whatever) of a supposed âunknowingâ person, not just an interview and sex.
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If you read my post again, I wasnât lumping Straight Guy sites like Fratmen, Corbin Fisher, etc. into the reality category.
I was merely pointing out that even though UKNM may have a reality-style tour, it is not a reality site like Broke Straight Boys, Boys First Time, etc.
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it does have a reality tour, though, which may be relevant to this thread
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Certainly the style of UKNMâs tour is relevant to this thread but really only the index.htm and index2.html pages. But then we also have pages like this⌠http://www.uknakedmen.com/themen.html & http://www.uknakedmen.com/videos.html that donât fit the reality tour template at all.
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true⌠but theyâre great pages imo 
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Thanks! But the text is too small. lol
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I dont think it matters too much imo. I think you need to show some of the REAL and ACTUAL models you have inside the site so I can get a sense of the guys.
90% of the time Ive bought a membership to a porn site is because I saw some of the models inside and I found that one guy who triggered something in me and I HAD to see more of them, so I bought a membership.
I totally agree with dzinerbear that those generic tours with no samples smell bullshit to me.
Iâd never buy a membership to a site if i didnt know what was inside because I know I would be disappointed.
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As this thread defines it, I like the reality-tour style. Good points are showing the updates dates, showing the new featured scenes, and an archive of past featured scenes.
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I like transparent tours.
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transparent tours ?
url with example would be nice ?
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[QUOTE=Mickey;12540]transparent tours ?
url with example would be nice ?[/QUOTE]
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A transparent tour is so named because it gives you a âtransparentâ look into the members area. You see pretty much everything a member sees (scene descriptions, number of scenes, etc) but no actual access to the content.
I know that a lot of them exist, but I canât imagine a tour for a site that contains models that arenât in the members area. If I were a surfer, that would be an instant chargeback.
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The one advantage that I have seen is that transparent tours seem to do well with tgp traffic. Only reason I can think is that the surfer is use to thumbs leading to galleries.
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[QUOTE=gaybucks_chip;12636]A transparent tour is so named because it gives you a âtransparentâ look into the members area. You see pretty much everything a member sees (scene descriptions, number of scenes, etc) but no actual access to the content.
I know that a lot of them exist, but I canât imagine a tour for a site that contains models that arenât in the members area. If I were a surfer, that would be an instant chargeback.[/QUOTE]
The âbadâ thing is that you can do a good transparent your if you lots of contents. Not all people can afford 20+ exclusive shoots to start a paysite