Re: LadsLads.com : 1000s MORE Stolen Videos. CCBILL STILL PROCESSING
Thanks Sam that was nice. I don’t hold grudges THAT long. I make mistakes, people change, some for the better. You’re a content producer now so you deeply feel how this kind of crime really get’s us in the gut, and pocket book. It looks like things are going to get tougher before they get better. It’s best we all stick together and continue to pool our resources yeah?
Re: LadsLads.com : 1000s MORE Stolen Videos. CCBILL STILL PROCESSING
[QUOTE=britton;72400]I saw that too but they list a new company everywhere but CCBill.
“LadsLads is one of the largest gay social networking sites. Operated by LadsLads LLC it was formerly operated by PanRemmus Software Solutions.”
So looks like they got out of the web design business and went into the much more lucrative selling other people’s stolen property business.[/QUOTE]
I have a TON of data I collected today but haven’t posted yet.
RE LadsLads LLC - yes it’s his latest incarnation as of 08/05/2009. This would make ladslads now a US Visa Region company, NOT EU Visa. This means that since 8/5/2009 this site has knowingly processed through the wrong Visa region and knowingly misrepresented their company to CCBill and Visa, but why?
Notice that the registered officers address is a rented out office in Zurich Switzerland that is currently vacant?
So CCBill EU is processing for a legally non existent company (Panremmus Limited) and probably depositing money in some Swiss bank account, when all the while LadsLads LLC is legally a US company and subject to US tax laws, corporate law, CCBill US approval, US Copyright law, etc.
I really don’t see how CCBill can go further with this company, or if they even want to. What a legal mess!
Re: LadsLads.com : 1000s MORE Stolen Videos. CCBILL STILL PROCESSING
Nice work, Squirt.
You’re right, you’ve compiled more than enough evidence to warrant-- at the very least-- a suspension by CCBill.
They suspended my account just because I had two domains pointing to the same site. I had to create a second subaccount for the other domain, as if it made any kind of difference.
So if they suspend me over some ridiculous visa technicality, one would hope they would suspend this guy who clearly is operating illegally and under false or outdated paperwork.
Re: LadsLads.com : 1000s MORE Stolen Videos. CCBILL STILL PROCESSING
Sorry… one last thing… when you Google the LadsLads LLC company officers address “Seefeldstrasse 69, 8008 Zürich” you see that it’s also the home of Ruluso Holding Ltd. and their UK fake lottery scam. The LadsLads LLC company officers name (SEGUROS S.A.) is also associated with the scam.
The Swiss Financial Market Supervisory Authority has put this company on their Unauthorized Institutions (black list) to protect investors from illegal and/or unauthorized financial activity. Notice that in Switzerland with FINMA they list their business address as being Switzerland, but contact address in Cyprus.
The officer address for LadsLads LLC “Seefeldstrasse 69, 8008 Zürich” has also been put on the National Bank of Slovakia’s Securities Delears Public Warnings list (Page 2 #29). This document by the Swedish Financial Supervisory Authority shows that the company at this address is "not authorised by Finansinspektionen (the Swedish Financial Supervisory Authority) and is therefore not entitled to provide financial services."
So in EU they get CCBill to process for them via a dissolved UK company that no longer exists. In the US their officer is in Switzerland, and in Switzerland their contact is in Cypress. All the while their ladslads llc officers address is on the National Bank of Slovakias warning list and the Swiss Financial Market Supervisory Authority black list! Yet CCBill is still processing for LadsLads :bang:
Re: LadsLads.com : 1000s MORE Stolen Videos. CCBILL STILL PROCESSING
As always, good job Squirt - however be careful with the address in Zurich. Some well known companies are registered at the same address (it’s probably a building where several companies have their offices in). Most companies on this address offer financial services (banks, investment companies, etc).
Re: LadsLads.com : 1000s MORE Stolen Videos. CCBILL STILL PROCESSING
Yes but only one company at this address shares the LadsLads LLC officers name AND address ( Ruluso Holding Ltd. ) , the company on the FINMA Unauthorized Institutions blacklist and named in the UK Lottery Scam.
Re: LadsLads.com : 1000s MORE Stolen Videos. CCBILL STILL PROCESSING
[QUOTE=ccjax;72371]
Try looking at this from a different perspective: what if someone accused YOU of having stolen content on your site? Whether it is true or not - should we just shut you down, because someone said so? [/QUOTE]
Seems to me you did EXACTLY that when Sean Lockhart/Brent Corrigan was launching his first paysite. Bryan Kocis made a few phonecalls to somebody at ccbill and magically ccbill was unwilling to process for Sean’s site. It had nothing to do with CP, the claim was something about copyright infringement because Brent was still under contact to Cobra.
I love CCBill, and you guys are topnotch, but policy enforcement is definitely not consistent; some customers are more equal than others.
My guess is that this client probably makes too much money for CCBill to pull the plug.
Re: LadsLads.com : 1000s MORE Stolen Videos. CCBILL STILL PROCESSING
[QUOTE=Squirt;72407]Sorry… one last thing… when you Google the LadsLads LLC company officers address “Seefeldstrasse 69, 8008 Zürich” you see that it’s also the home of Ruluso Holding Ltd. and their UK fake lottery scam. The LadsLads LLC company officers name (SEGUROS S.A.) is also associated with the scam.
The Swiss Financial Market Supervisory Authority has put this company on their Unauthorized Institutions (black list) to protect investors from illegal and/or unauthorized financial activity. Notice that in Switzerland with FINMA they list their business address as being Switzerland, but contact address in Cyprus.
The officer address for LadsLads LLC “Seefeldstrasse 69, 8008 Zürich” has also been put on the National Bank of Slovakia’s Securities Delears Public Warnings list (Page 2 #29). This document by the Swedish Financial Supervisory Authority shows that the company at this address is "not authorised by Finansinspektionen (the Swedish Financial Supervisory Authority) and is therefore not entitled to provide financial services."
So in EU they get CCBill to process for them via a dissolved UK company that no longer exists. In the US their officer is in Switzerland, and in Switzerland their contact is in Cypress. All the while their ladslads llc officers address is on the National Bank of Slovakias warning list and the Swiss Financial Market Supervisory Authority black list! Yet CCBill is still processing for LadsLads :bang:[/QUOTE]
Sweet Fuck. That’s quite major! Wouldn’t processing for criminals and known scammers be a danger to CCBill’s business? I wonder what happens if the wrong people got hold of that kind of information…
Re: LadsLads.com : 1000s MORE Stolen Videos. CCBILL STILL PROCESSING
Couldn’t agree more. And yes, we do have to stick together. These are hard times, made harder by thieves. Thanks Squirt.
Re: LadsLads.com : 1000s MORE Stolen Videos. CCBILL STILL PROCESSING
I will reiterate myself. If CCBill stops processing ladslads, they will move to another processor.
But, what if we go with all the excelent information Squirtz has got (btw, congrats for squirtz) to Visa and Mastercard directly? If Visa and MC bans them, then no processor will be able to work with them. It’s a deadly hit.
Jorge Bianco
www.authenticfootballers.com
Re: LadsLads.com : 1000s MORE Stolen Videos. CCBILL STILL PROCESSING
[QUOTE=jorgebianco;72426]If Visa and MC bans them, then no processor will be able to work with them. It’s a deadly hit.
[/QUOTE]
Unlikely for a number of reasons. For one thing, if they did managed to get on the TMF (which seems really unlikely), they’ll just open another company with different sham owners and evade the ban that way.
For another, I doubt Visa International is going to give a rat’s ass what that some porn company is pirating content. And you can bet your ass that they’ve got any processing for their affiliated companies buried through layers of organizations and countries to evade detection.
Re: LadsLads.com : 1000s MORE Stolen Videos. CCBILL STILL PROCESSING
Great job Squirt!
Yes, I agree that even if CCBill drops LadLads, they’ll find someone else to process for them and continue on. However, getting CCBill to drop them as a client is the main topic of this thread I believe and I, personally, would like to see that.
With all the information available about this very shady, quite illegal company, it looks as though CCBill has more than enough proof to delete their account.
Can we get some indication from the CCBill folks that measures are being taken to get this company out of your database? Gary? We like you guys, but this reflects pretty badly on your company at this point.
Re: LadsLads.com : 1000s MORE Stolen Videos. CCBILL STILL PROCESSING
Generally, when the going gets tough, CCBill goes silent.
But that’s at least better than Epoch, who dodges everything and when asked an uncomfortable question, disappears entirely.
Re: LadsLads.com : 1000s MORE Stolen Videos. CCBILL STILL PROCESSING
I think sending in the DMCA’s and contacting Gary @ CCBill is key.
From Post #2 , who has sent in their DMCA’s since 6/29?
BlakeMason.com
HelixStudios.com
BrokeStraightBoys.com
EnglishLads.com
UKnakedMen.com
MenAtPlay.com
CollegeBoyPhyicals.com
ClubJeremyhall.com
RandyBlue.com
Suite703.com
HomoEmo.com
BoyzParty.com
CorbinFisher.com
SeanCody.com
BareBackBottoms.com
CollegeDudes247.com
CircleJerkBoys.com
ExtraBigDicks.com
PierreFitch
LatinJocks.com
NextDoorStudios.com
CJBoys.com
Has ANYONE sent in DMCA’s yet, because I don’t see anyone with pirated content on that site posting in this thread other then Sam, I could be wrong, but just from first glance.
Below is a sample DMCA with all of LadsLads info filled in for you, enter your info and send it to [email protected] then contact [email protected] and let him know your DMCA has been sent!
If I can take the time to provide all of this for you, the least you can do is fill it out and send it in.
[SIZE=2][SIZE=4]Digital Millennium Copyright Act Infringement Notice[/SIZE] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Notice of Copyright Infringement
[/SIZE]LadsLads LLC[SIZE=2]
Attn: Tim Jones, [/SIZE] Designated Agent for DMCA Notices[SIZE=2]
[/SIZE][email protected] [SIZE=2]
[/SIZE]I, [Your Full Name Organization Name & Title], certify under penalty of perjury, that I am an agent authorized to act on behalf of the owner of certain intellectual property rights.
I have a good faith belief that the items or materials listed below are not authorized by law for use by the above named copyright owner or their agents and therefore infringes the copyright owner’s rights. I hereby demand that you act expeditiously to remove or disable access to the material or items claimed to be infringing.
[SIZE=2]
[/SIZE][SIZE=2]Notice of copyright infringement
1: The copyrighted work at issue appears at http://www.ladslads.com. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]2: The material that is infringing on my copyrighted work is located at:
NAME OF WORK:
URL:
[/SIZE][SIZE=2]
[/SIZE][SIZE=2]NAME OF WORK:
URL:
[/SIZE][SIZE=2]
[/SIZE][SIZE=2]NAME OF WORK:
URL:
[/SIZE][SIZE=2]NAME OF WORK:
URL:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]
In accordance with the DMCA please remove the infringing material above immediately. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]3. My contact information:
Company Name
Sent by: Name
Address
Phone
Email [/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]4. Contact information for the infringing party:
[/SIZE]LadsLads LLC[SIZE=2]
[/SIZE][email protected]
[SIZE=2] Attn: Tim Jones, [/SIZE] Designated Agent for DMCA Notices[SIZE=2]
(Designated agent is not listed on the U.S. Copyright Office Service Provider Designated Agents list)
[/SIZE][SIZE=2]
IP # [/SIZE]67.228.184.83 - via EfforDev LLC & SoftLayer Technologies Inc.
Nevada Business ID# NV20091129791 a Domestic Limited-Liability Company
Nevada Business Entity # E0429852009-1
Nevada Corporation Registered Agent Information
NEVADA COMMERCIAL REGISTERED AGENTS LC
4231 DANT BLVD
Reno, NV 89509-7020
[SIZE=2]5. I have a good faith belief that use of the copyrighted materials described above on the allegedly infringing web pages is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]6. I swear, under penalty of perjury, that the information in the notification is accurate and that I am the copyright owner or am authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Signed: ____________________[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Date: ______________ [/SIZE]
Re: LadsLads.com : 1000s MORE Stolen Videos. CCBILL STILL PROCESSING
There is nothing whatsoever that CCBill can do regarding the copyright issue. It is not in their realm of responsibility. So marching on Phoenix isn’t going to do you any good. If they find that they are processing for a corporation that doesn’t exist, then that is a different story. But it has nothing whatsoever to do with copyright. Preaching at them won’t change the law. We can not expect a processor to do our police work for us.
Sad but true.
Re: LadsLads.com : 1000s MORE Stolen Videos. CCBILL STILL PROCESSING
Ok, so it would be nice to know whether CCBill is paying attention to the information that Squirt has provided and if they plan on doing anything about it. It’s understood that stopping these people from stealing and reselling isn’t going to happen by CCBill just simply not processing for them anymore.
The main concern here is that CCBill is still processing for these people. If the company doesn’t exist - and it looks like that’s the case - WHY is CCBill still processing for them? Indeed, this now has nothing to do with copyright infringement, but is about CCBill processing for a company that doesn’t legally exist.
Re: LadsLads.com : 1000s MORE Stolen Videos. CCBILL STILL PROCESSING
In the big boy world of lawyers and litigation, it is not reasonable to expect a processor to come on to a board and say “why yes, the information you have posted in a public forum is correct and we think these guys are attempting to defraud the banks and possibly their taxing authority”. They (the processor) would have to verify the information and than take the steps that are required legally.
Have you guys ever paid for lawsuits? Do you have any idea how much they really cost? Put 30K up to start. That won’t even begin to get you through discovery. Maybe another 30 for depositions and associated costs. 100k over two - three years and THEN go to trial.
Nobody with the assets or anything substantial to lose is gonna start explaining what they are or are not going to do on a public forum. So cut them some slack. We don’t know what they are doing and are not going to know.
Re: LadsLads.com : 1000s MORE Stolen Videos. CCBILL STILL PROCESSING
I’ve been involved with a lawsuit for the past 4 years now and it will continue until I get what’s coming to me for being run over by a 4x4 in February of 2006. Of course, the lawyers will get their end when and IF the suit resolves in my favor. It looks as though it might, however, I don’t think there will be much left by then. LOL. It’s a good thing the suit has not been going non-stop since then.
I understand what you’re saying Alex and I appreciate the information and wake up call. I guess I just find it frustrating that one of the most trusted companies in our business is still processing for someone who is so blatantly dirty and underhanded. Perhaps I’m pathetically honest and while that means I finish last a lot, it also means I can sleep at night.
It’s in CCBill’s hands now I suppose. One can only hope.
Re: LadsLads.com : 1000s MORE Stolen Videos. CCBILL STILL PROCESSING
I dont think ccbill owes a Legal answer … but they do owe his customers (which is not my case) a Commercial answer.
In any activity: If you have a customer who is causing damage to a number of other customers of yours, then you might be forced to supply a commercial answer simply not to jeopardize the business continuity of the complaining customers.
In other words, if the affected sites that operate with ccbill decided to move his processing to another processor because of ladslads, then ccbill would undoubtfully react. And lawyers would have nothing to do in this reaction.
Re: LadsLads.com : 1000s MORE Stolen Videos. CCBILL STILL PROCESSING
LadsLads is not quite so straight forward. They have a huge amount of thumnnails, many of which link to videos that have already been removed. In my case I still have a membership and I can’t find anything that’s still working for content that I own.
Once could easily argue about the thumbnails I guess 