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Actually it would be a fifth of all LGBT people not a seventh. Even more ridiculous. And how many people who go aren’t online?
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Also to people who think that ‘everyone’ goes to Gay Pride…
What do think is the average age of people who go to Pride? 25, 26? Did you ever stop to think how many LGBT people are aged over 30?
The 18-30 period is just 12 years. However people don’t stop being gay when they hit 30. Most live to be 70 or 80.
The 30-80 age period is 50 years. I don’t know the exact figures, but it stands to reason that there are about four times as many LGBT people aged 30-80 as there are aged 18-30. And I suggest that 50 and 60 year olds are probably more likely to buy porn than 20 year olds.
And we’re only talking about the 6% who identify as LGBT. What about the large number who are ‘straight’ but like to watch gay porn and who would never go to Pride in a million years.
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[QUOTE=DirtyRatStudios;12976]Also to people who think that ‘everyone’ goes to Gay Pride…
What do think is the average age of people who go to Pride? 25, 26? Did you ever stop to think how many LGBT people are aged over 30?
The 18-30 period is just 12 years. However people don’t stop being gay when they hit 30. Most live to be 70 or 80.
The 30-80 age period is 50 years. I don’t know the exact figures, but it stands to reason that there are about four times as many LGBT people aged 30-80 as there are aged 18-30. And I suggest that 50 and 60 year olds are probably more likely to buy porn than 20 year olds.
And we’re only talking about the 6% who identify as LGBT. What about the large number who are ‘straight’ but like to watch gay porn and who would never go to Pride in a million years.[/QUOTE]
I would guess that a good portion of Pride crowds in large cities are travelers from other states/provinces/countries that don’t have such festivities. And many straight people also attend Pride parades. Here in Dallas, entire mexican families come to watch the freak show.
And every Pride parade I’ve ever been to had plenty of folks over 30. My guess is that maybe you just didn’t notice them. 
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Thanks, glad its not just me. I think you are right. And I did find out out that at least one large advertiser had and still have processing or account problems.
So yes, pretty sure something must have been wrong with processing yeasterday.
Sales where back to normal yeasterday though, even above average.
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[QUOTE=xstr8guy;12977]I would guess that a good portion of Pride crowds in large cities are travelers from other states/provinces/countries that don’t have such festivities. And many straight people also attend Pride parades. Here in Dallas, entire mexican families come to watch the freak show.
And every Pride parade I’ve ever been to had plenty of folks over 30. My guess is that maybe you just didn’t notice them. ;)[/QUOTE]
I just want people to think outside of the box and question the ‘received ideas’ and propaganda that is put about by marketing people who have certain vested interests.
A very small percentage of openly gay men and those who identify as ‘gay’ go to pride festivals. Openly gay men are, in turn, a small percentage of the male audience for gay porn. Anyone who runs a porn business and thinks otherwise doesn’t know their customers IMO
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I agree totally, people who go to Gay Pride is a minority. I dont think I even know anyone who goes to Pride anymore.
And if you then consider who looks at gay porn its even a smaller minority of those who would ever attend gay pride.
For myself and people I know, we all went a couple of times when we where younger and new to the scene, but after that it looses its attraction.
[quote=DirtyRatStudios;12983] I just want people to think outside of the box and question the ‘received ideas’ and propaganda that is put about by marketing people who have certain vested interests.
A very small percentage of openly gay men and those who identify as ‘gay’ go to pride festivals. Openly gay men are, in turn, a small percentage of the male audience for gay porn. Anyone who runs a porn business and thinks otherwise doesn’t know their customers IMO :)[/quote]
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Just to add on to JD’s Comment. We had a normal day with CCBill, but sites that use their own system or Epoch were all way off for us. Monday is almost always our highest sales day, but this week it was the lowest day of the whole month and then some, but like I said, it was a normal day for our CCBill master account. That is what led us to believe it was a processing problem.
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Exactly what I found as well. CCbill was fine, but most other “systems” seems to have had issues, NATS systems possibly. Just a bit too much of a coincident.
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Second half of this month has been weird. Some really great days and some horrible days. I am normally right in teh middle all month.
–Chubbs
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I seem have had the reverse. The start of June was bad and the last part has been better. Overall a below average month for adult. However I have had my best-ever month for Adsense on my mainstream sites.
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Odd isnt it, there is no clear patterns the last couple of months, maybe even this whole year. It seems not possible to even blame bad sales on anything like the economy etc… One person has a bad sales week another doesnt, or if adult is down, mainstream is up…
Very odd indeed…
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That’s true. It has been a real rollercoaster this year so far. March was my second best-ever month for adult VOD sales. Odd to have this happen with so much uncertainty about for people.
I feel things could have been MUCH worse than they have, with all the doom and gloom about in the media and people feeling the pinch financially.
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[QUOTE=gaydemon;13100]Odd isnt it, there is no clear patterns the last couple of months, maybe even this whole year. It seems not possible to even blame bad sales on anything like the economy etc… One person has a bad sales week another doesnt, or if adult is down, mainstream is up…
Very odd indeed…[/QUOTE]
I think it really has to do with the traffic and sites you market. You are either "lucky’ and get a surfer that is not going away or you are unlucky and get a bunch of surfers that are on their way to vacation.
Summer is always weird. It usually stabilizes a bit in July and picks up in August.
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This is what we found. We had our best day in a while with CCbill. Netbilling was good as well. I am thinking that most programs that use NATS/MPA3 put Epoch at the top. Maybe there were issues with Epoch. Our Epoch was so-so.
However, I am convinced that on some days C/C processing for adult transactions is just not right. I know a few webmasters that have paysites, friends that have paysites, as well as retail. It seems to flow in a pattern many days. I can’t explain it at all.
The other day I was in Saks and the lady said, “this may not go through the first time, we have been having trouble all day, I think the C/C companies are busy today.” Sure enough, it timed out and she canceled the charge the first time. I am sure issues like this must affect porn somehow.
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My CCBill sales are terrible. I used to be able to convert sites like BlakeMason at 1:125 (Jan to Jun 2007 was 1:180). This year it’s 1:525 and my recurring sales have all gone over the past six months. Whereas VOD sales have grown overall.
Over the next few months I’m going to experiment to work out what, if anything, it costs me in terms of lost VOD sales, when I send traffic to membership sites. It may be I would be better off not promoting pay sites anymore in some cases.