View Full Version : 487 Promo Images !!!
rawTOP
08-13-2009, 12:23 PM
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I used to think the sponsors who put out 150+ images per scene were crazy but I just downloaded one set that had 487 images! The zip file was 103 MB and didn't even include a video! Remember those old style flip-book movies? Well, by cycling through the images you get the same thing - one screen cap every couple seconds...
How in the hell is an affiliate supposed to go through 500 images to find the 8 or 10 we need? It's a new sponsor for me, all I gotta say is it better convert for me to put this much time into a post...
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RDude
08-13-2009, 08:09 PM
487? Wow. LOL. Man that's insane. I agree, the site had better convert for you. You should be getting paid just to sort through it all! Sounds like something you might do as an affiliate manager rather than what an affiliate should do. Good luck with that! Sincerely.
basschick
08-13-2009, 10:54 PM
i've run into sets over 200 pics a number of times at nastydollars. actually i believe they give affiliates the entire pic sets to work with. it can take quite a while to sort out which pics to use...
TropixxxMichael
08-14-2009, 12:05 PM
So what should/would be a good number of photos to include in a set like that?
RDude
08-14-2009, 12:21 PM
From 10-15 of the best of images from the set. Beginning with a few kissing and clothed pics and ending with revealing pics. Cumshots aren't always necesssary, but if it's a fuck scene then some dick in ass action is always nice.
Looking at your content though, I would say some pics of a sub dressed and ending with him being spanked etc.
The pics should tell the story just as a video would.
My 2 cents
TropixxxMichael
08-14-2009, 01:08 PM
Looking at your content though, I would say some pics of a sub dressed and ending with him being spanked etc.
The pics should tell the story just as a video would.
My 2 cents
Thanks. That is sort of what I thought, but I was not sure.
basschick
08-14-2009, 02:08 PM
i'd say 20 per set if you're aiming at bloggers and gallery makers, maybe more if you're aiming at freesite webmasters. 16 would be a minimum if you want gallery makers to be able to use the pics since the rule at most tgps is that the pics must come from a single shoot.
So what should/would be a good number of photos to include in a set like that?
TropixxxMichael
08-14-2009, 03:27 PM
i'd say 20 per set if you're aiming at bloggers and gallery makers, maybe more if you're aiming at freesite webmasters. 16 would be a minimum if you want gallery makers to be able to use the pics since the rule at most tgps is that the pics must come from a single shoot.
Ok, thanks.
Is there a specific format and size that is "standard" or that people seem to prefer?
dirkpeddler
08-14-2009, 04:05 PM
I think it's great to have the ability to pick images from sponsor provided content, but over 400 images in a set is a bit much. Lots of sponsors provide zipped content with sets varying from 20-200 images. Yes it takes a little more time to pick for galleries, but it's our job, right? Also, risk of overuse of provided images is much less on galleries. When a set only has 15-20 images, you very quickly get a message from TGPs or link directories(the ones that actually work), that those images have been seen too many times already. The thing I think is more annoying is those images with huge watermarks on them. Watermarking is good, but keep it small, not 1/8th of the image.
basschick
08-14-2009, 07:04 PM
Dirkpeddlerr has a good point, and in fact that's one of the reasons i did well with programs like nastydollars and naughtyamerica - because i could choose my own pics from a large set. also worth mentioning that programs who send a few pics force their affiliates to create almost the same blog collage. more pics means you can really customize - you can make a solo set from a hardcore shoot, or focus on the guys' underwear or anything you like. you can make a collage of 5 closeups or else focus on the model's big blue eyes. variety = spice of life and all that.
if you're going for the widest variety of affiliates, go for 600x800 as some tgps do require that as the minimum allowable size. bigger is good, too ;)
rawTOP
08-14-2009, 07:42 PM
So what should/would be a good number of photos to include in a set like that?
That and a lot more was covered in a thread a few weeks back...
http://www.gaydemon.biz/showthread.php?p=47408#post47408
TropixxxMichael
08-16-2009, 08:35 AM
That and a lot more was covered in a thread a few weeks back...
http://www.gaydemon.biz/showthread.php?p=47408#post47408
PERFECT! Thanks.
Great read!
MiamiBoyz
08-16-2009, 07:20 PM
I have always thought that more is better be that dollars...inches...or the number of photos to pick from.
Since each affiliate is different, their needs are different as well...some prefer a number of R-rated pics to post while others like all X-rated.
What I do is send out a zip with entire shoot so everyone can use what they can use most productively for their needs.
basschick
08-16-2009, 07:48 PM
and i, for one, find that quite useful :)
I have always thought that more is better be that dollars...inches...or the number of photos to pick from.
Since each affiliate is different, their needs are different as well...some prefer a number of R-rated pics to post while others like all X-rated.
What I do is send out a zip with entire shoot so everyone can use what they can use most productively for their needs.
rawTOP
08-17-2009, 03:30 AM
I have always thought that more is better be that dollars...inches...or the number of photos to pick from.
What I do is send out a zip with entire shoot so everyone can use what they can use most productively for their needs.
The key is the word 'productively'. Sets with 100+ ALWAYS have crappy shots mixed in, and a lot of near duplicates - usually around 2/3rds to 3/4th are either low quality or near duplicates. It's not productive to give those to affiliates and make them go through low quality pics they'll never use. 15 minutes of your time will save 15 minutes * the number of affiliates you have.
and i, for one, find that quite useful :)
That sounds like you're saying 100+ pics in a set is useful, but you've said just the opposite before..
pics:
minimum 8 pics per set (15 is ideal so i can do galleries), 600x800 or 800x600 minimum size, combination of medium shots and closeups.
I honestly don't see what the big fuss is.
While I agree hundreds of images is beyond overkill, it only takes me a few seconds to select the ones I think may work for me. I certainly don't open up hundreds of images to decide, I view them as thumbnails first and may end up opening 15-20 and using 8-10.
In the end, I'd rather have too many than too few.
rawTOP
08-17-2009, 07:42 AM
I honestly don't see what the big fuss is.
While I agree hundreds of images is beyond overkill, it only takes me a few seconds to select the ones I think may work for me. I certainly don't open up hundreds of images to decide, I view them as thumbnails first and may end up opening 15-20 and using 8-10.
You often can't see the best (or worst) features of an image in a thumbnail. And in my case I have a CMS that's basically a database of sponsor promo materials. I've got a pretty tight process that lets me get things up relatively quickly and easily and my process slows down considerably when there's too many images. Yeah, I could change the CMS, but it seems absurd to do all that work for just a few sponsors who can't be bothered to go through their images.
Daniel
08-17-2009, 08:03 AM
I would agree with rawtop.. I find nothing worse than having too many images to pick from. I like enough so my collage can be different to every other affiliate if I so wish, but I do find it a pain to go through duplicates and those that are marginally different and really aren't going to make a great deal of difference to the user or click throughs.
Equally.. it can be annoying if there aren't quite enough to represent the set well enough - I like to go through the scene with the collage, rather than just using a few.
Somewhere around 20-30 *good*, non duplicate photos is about right for what I like.