using your own custom galleries on your tgp

[basschick]

a friend of mine has used fhg's or a mix of fhg's and submitted galleries on his tgps and mgps for years. he finally made the switch to custom galleries and the result? 3 times more sales regularly for the last month.

of course, it helped that he knows galleries. i would imagine a newbie who doesn't understand galleries at all could make less money with custom galleries... although most fhg's are so crappy that maybe not.

[Chubbs]

Like you said it all boils down to how well you know how to make a gallery that converts. From the layout to the text to the thumbs you choose all make a big difference. BUT if you know what you are doing then it really makes ahuge difference. If you don't know how to create the right gall. temp layout or write text but do know how to pick thumbs, what will most likely happen is your site/bandwidth bill will grow but you sales with not.

Is something I have been considering doing for a while now. I just don't have the time to make hundreds of galleries and can't find anyone worth hiring.

--Chubbs

[basschick]

i've seen several designers that make what i consider good templates. it's always worth paying for a few to see how they do for ya.

[gaydemon]

I can totally understand that.

FHG is in general very bad, most of it not designed very well but whats worse they often just seem to throw in their worst content rather than something that will entice people.

If i had the time and energy, I would have done custom galleries for my TGPs. But it would take such a long time to do.

But then, question is would custom FHG not be quite simliar to what JUB has done with their galleries. They bascially create galleries for each sponsor but brand it with their own site and links to the sponsor?

[basschick]

no. JUB uses a unadorned JUB page that is obviously on their own site and not about the site they are promoting in any way. galleries that you have made would not look like they were from your site. also thumb layouts can make a HUGE difference in sales, and theirs are just sort of grouped together - not to mention different text, text sizes and stuff would send a lot more hits.

http://www.justusboys.com/eyecandy_8040-wade-corbin_fisher.html
this is a page made to display pics, but it is not made to send traffic to a site. their links that say "CLICK HERE TO VISIT CORBIN FISHER NOW!" couldn't be less interesting. maybe this would sure be more effective:

Want more AMATEUR COLLEGE COCK?
Click Here to Enter CORBIN FISHER!

not only is it a little more enticing, but it's on 2 lines, which always improves clicks. and a different link at the bottom - one thing i learned working tgp galleries years ago - never never NEVER use the same link or banner in 2 places on one gallery if you're actually trying to send hits.

[Chubbs]

I know of a tgp owner that makes galleries where the temp. matches his site. Even has the name of the tgp at the top of the gallery. For the life of me I can't seem to find either the site or the galleries. Is pissing me off cause its a older, big site. Will track it down and post some examples.

--Chubbs

[Hammerhead]

I think another thing to keep in mind is that your expenses will go way up when you start using custom galleries, especially movie galleries. The hosting charge of all my movie gallery servers is definitely my biggest expense.

So your sales might triple compared to using only fhgs, but the expense of running the TGP may end up being much higher than before.

[Chubbs]

Here's the site/temp I was referring to

www.malempegs.com and the gallery http://www.malempegs.com/blueloot/gals/1214/indext.html

--Chubbs

[gaydemon]

Ok, but so if I got this right you are both saying that it definitly pays off more to have custom galleries which are NOT in the same theme as your own main site, or seems to be a part of your own site.

Custom galleries like the ones JUB has sells far worse than a custom gallery which is custom in the sense its made to look like the site its selling and geared towards that rather than branding it as you own main site?

[Chubbs]

Ok, but so if I got this right you are both saying that it definitly pays off more to have custom galleries which are NOT in the same theme as your own main site, or seems to be a part of your own site.

Custom galleries like the ones JUB has sells far worse than a custom gallery which is custom in the sense its made to look like the site its selling and geared towards that rather than branding it as you own main site?

I think as long as the gallery is made well, it does not really matter if the temp looks like your tgp or the site the its promoting. Either way it will sell.

--Chubbs

[basschick]

there's a HUGE difference between what malempegs is doing with their gallery and what JUB is doing. this gallery is giving specifics about the site the pics are from - basically a mini-review on the gallery. i could see why it could do well...


Here's the site/temp I was referring to

www.malempegs.com (http://www.malempegs.com) and the gallery http://www.malempegs.com/blueloot/gals/1214/indext.html

--Chubbs

[abostonboy]

I have to say that whatever JUB is doing, I ain't complaining....

[Fister]

I know I do a lot better on sales with my custom-built galleries rather than with FHG's. Is that because of better quality? Hard to say in my case, as I submit my custom galleries to TGP's and link lists, but only use FHG's on my own low-traffic TGP.

I think http://www.malempegs.com/blueloot/gals/1214/indext.html is not using text effectively by not capitalizing on the difference between features and benefits. A list of features of the paysite is nice, but ho hum. How will these features benefit the prospect? It would be better to describe the features of the content scene (rather than just the paysite), that this type of content is at the paysite, how it will turn the prospect on, make his dick hard and make him cum. something like, "Jack off watching Lucky and Reese fuck", "Cum now with hunks fucking at Randy Blue".

[Rocket_Bryce]

Custom galleries like the ones JUB has sells far worse than a custom gallery which is custom in the sense its made to look like the site its selling and geared towards that rather than branding it as you own main site?

Ha ha. I wouldn't buy that philosophy if I were you Bjorn. Those galleries send out tens upon tens of thousands of unique clicks directly to websites everyday and the conversions are 1:90 this year (2008) off of our galleries. I can't imagine there are very many TGP's with conversions like that. It's a very clean gallery system where people come back over and over because they know they aren't going to get jerked around.

[gaydemon]

Ouch, ill have to take that back then! I had no idea such galleries sold that well. I've always looked at free galleries as low ratio compared to other ways of selling a site.

Might just have to test that out then! ;)


Ha ha. I wouldn't buy that philosophy if I were you Bjorn. Those galleries send out tens upon tens of thousands of unique clicks directly to websites everyday and the conversions are 1:90 this year (2008) off of our galleries. I can't imagine there are very many TGP's with conversions like that. It's a very clean gallery system where people come back over and over because they know they aren't going to get jerked around.

[abostonboy]

I think why JUB galleries do well is the fact that they are all the same template. Surfers know what to expect.

But, I think it goes beyond that.
http://www.justusboys.com/eyecandy_9045-juan-miami_boyz.html

You really have to look at how the traffic "flows". Galleries, user comments, featured galleries at the bottom, link to the review, and links to all galleries from the sponsor.

It's impossible to do this with free hosted galleries.

[tombarr]

If you don't mind the reference to a straight site that does custom site branded galleries you can look here. http://www.nngalleries.com/teen-models/ann_angel.html and here http://www.nngalleries.com/gallery2/ann-angel-ann-in-a-skimpy-pink-summer-bikini-1894.html

I don't know how well they perform for him, ( maybe BassChick can give us her evaluation based upon her experience in TGP's and custom gallery building / marketing ) nor do I know how productive his main site is, but judging from the depth of the site I'm going to take a long shot and say he's spent what had to be quite a long time developing it because it does make money :)

I know, I know, what's a gay man doing looking at straight sites? Well, Chubbs looks at gay sites so it's only fair!