Facebook Deleted Me [Archive]

dzinerbear

05-05-2009, 04:39 AM

So I just had my Butch Dixon Facebook page delete. I woke up this morning to find a message from one of my partners that the Facebook page had been deleted. I got a message in the middle of the night warning me that I uploaded nude photos to my Facebook page and the offending photos had been removed.

Funny thing is that I've been over-the-top careful about this because I knew it was an issue. I didn't even type the word "cock" on my page.

I just found out the UKNM got up to 3,000 friends, and then, they were deleted. Men at Play and Falcon have also recently been deleted.

I even used a Facebook feature that's supposed to prohibit people under 18 from seeing my page.

Here's the worst of the offending photos.

Michael

gaydemon

05-05-2009, 05:17 AM

Interesting, that means that they at least keep a watch on profiles. Or maybe someone reported it?

dzinerbear

05-05-2009, 06:20 AM

Squirt

05-05-2009, 08:37 AM

Could they have an algorithm that flags photos being uploaded as having lots of skintones?

I don't think so , otherwise there would be not bathing suit photos and god knows no straight guys would sign up and facebook would be out of business. 666

Seriously though I'm sorry to hear you got deleted, you put a lot of work into creating that presence.

camcruise

05-05-2009, 08:43 AM

It sounds to me like they dont want porn sites to have a facebook page.

MiamiBoyz

05-05-2009, 09:21 AM

Don't you love these "family friendly" "politically correct" social networking sites...

I don't a page on any of them!

webnet

05-05-2009, 09:23 AM

I think that facebook see that your profile is for advertising purposes, and not is a normal profile from a real person.

terrytowel

05-05-2009, 09:25 AM

I think the only thing we can do is not post pictures, or give anyone the ability to post pictures. Just make a fan page a text based only social networking site. I know it defeats the purpose, but there that many other options. Unless you want to use a gay-based social networking sites at the link below.

http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/10/11/eight-social-networking-sites-for-men-who-love-men/

Problem is I don't think they would deliver the same eyeballs as Facebook would.

webnet

05-05-2009, 09:31 AM

in this link
http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/10/11/eight-social-networking-sites-for-men-who-love-men/
forget Gayromeo.com and gaydar.co.uk I think the 2 most big sites.

dzinerbear

05-05-2009, 09:50 AM

I tried DList and they cancelled my account because they don't allow people to use pictures of cartoon characters, even the the Butch Dixon cartoon is legit. Oh well, the good thing is that Facebook is only a flash in the pan. It's the trend of the moment. Right now, everyone is stampeding over to Twitter, and in another month it'll be something else. In a year people will be saying, "Face-what?"

Michael

Jasun

05-05-2009, 10:02 AM

Yeah, they got rid of the Cocksure Men one, too.

to be honest, I didnt' give a shit about it anyway and it had like three pictures and a link.

MrMax

05-05-2009, 10:53 AM

he is HOT! I need to go to the UK.
Its still porn-y though. Even if its non nude its still suggestive. If I were a censor at Facebook I would remove it too.

gaybucks_chip

05-05-2009, 12:12 PM

Apparently they do specifically have "porn cops" who look for and delete profiles that advertise porn. Assholes.

Just came across this (http://www.newsweek.com/id/195621?GT1=43002)

Jeff@UKScallyLads

05-05-2009, 12:24 PM

Could they have an algorithm that flags photos being uploaded as having lots of skintones?

I still don't understand what the problem was with the above photo. Okay, the guy has big ears, but he's definitely not nude.

Michael

LOL!! Yeah, it must be the ears man. Some people just don't like hairy men in leather I guess. Tis' a shame. They have no idea what they're missing.

Sorry to hear that anyway Dzinerbear. At least you're not alone though. I stay away from Facebook myself. Way too many spamming strategies they've got. I understand why you would get on there to promote a paysite though. Only makes sense.

Jeff@UKScallyLads

05-05-2009, 12:26 PM

Apparently they do specifically have "porn cops" who look for and delete profiles that advertise porn. Assholes.

Just came across this (http://www.newsweek.com/id/195621?GT1=43002)

Assholes indeed.

dzinerbear

05-05-2009, 12:47 PM

Thanks for the article Chip. Very insightful. It's unfortunate though that they didn't just remove the picture, cancelling the whole account seems a bit heavy handed. And I'm sure the whole thing could be resolved by requiring pages like mine to have an 18-year-old minimum.

Michael

tombarr

05-05-2009, 12:56 PM

That sucks Michael! Sorry to hear they cancelled your page. Well, build up your twitter account. They'd have to delete a lot of twitter users to get rid of the porn there.

abostonboy

05-05-2009, 03:59 PM

That does suck Michael.

But, on the other hand, MySpace became totally useless because of all the commercial profiles. I think we have to really look at Facebook's roots - it was not long ago that you had to prove via an .edu email account that you were a college student to use the service.

Facebook is a great site if you want to spread the word about social and political issues. I kinda like facebook as it is.

webnet

05-05-2009, 10:28 PM

maybe the success of facebook is 0% profiles promoting sites :-)

gaybucks_chip

05-06-2009, 02:59 AM

I think somewhere between Myspace and Facebook would be nice.

On Myspace, even if the person has specifically made their profile private, you can at least see enough about them (where they're from, age, and a picture bigger than my little fingernail) to tell if, for example, you're trying to locate an old friend. If the profile is public (whicn many are), you can browse and easily find new friends based on common interests, etc.

On Facebook, you can't learn shit about anyone except in your primary network. I joined with an .edu address from my college alma mater, so I'm part of the school's network... which isn't good for much except meeting others who went to my school.

Plus Facebook's "Always be evil" philosophy makes them inherently untrustworthy. Mark Zuckerberg allegedly lied his way into Harvard, stole the Facebook idea from people he was supposed to be writing the software for, and then lied his ass off about the value of the company when he settled with them for having stolen their business. Total piece of shit.

dzinerbear

05-06-2009, 04:28 AM

Plus Facebook's "Always be evil" philosophy makes them inherently untrustworthy. Mark Zuckerberg allegedly lied his way into Harvard, stole the Facebook idea from people he was supposed to be writing the software for, and then lied his ass off about the value of the company when he settled with them for having stolen their business. Total piece of shit.

Plus, honestly, it's one of the most user-unfriendliest interfaces I've ever used. Who would think that to unfriend someone that you have to go their profile page and scroll all the way past all the junk on their wall to find a tiny text link on the left side?

How is it possible that people who think they have to type www.anywebsiteaddresshere.com into a Google toolbar instead of the browser address bar can possibly manage to navigate their way around Facebook?

Michael

Teddy

05-06-2009, 04:50 AM

To play devil's advocate, the plus side of having so little information publicly visible in Facebook is that one doesn't have to worry about protecting it from people who they don't want to see it. For instance, people in the closet who don't want their work colleagues to see pics of their trip to Fire Island or that they've joined the Gay Six Degrees Of Separation group.

Interestingly, this brings up a problem that Gaydemon mentioned -- what do you do when two of your different worlds intersect on Facebook. In his case, when his nephew wanted to be his friend. More commonly, when your boss or work colleague wants to be your friend. If you don't "friend" them then you risk insulting them. Facebook is going to have to figure out what to do about this.

Tube4Gay

05-06-2009, 06:55 AM

I woke up one morning to find my Youtube popular account with over a thousand subsribers deleted. I was very carefully editing videos I was posting there to make sure all "objectionable" material was removed, but was displaying a banner at the beginning and end with my site name, and the videos of course had the watermark of the sponsors - both adult websites.

I was pissed off, but at the end of the day, it was a violation of their ToS and they had every right to close the account.

Gaystoryman

05-06-2009, 10:53 AM

Gaystoryman

05-06-2009, 10:57 AM

Anyone checked out the new social site, BuddyPress (http://buddypress.org/) from wordpress?

Haven't a clue what it's TOS are, or how it deals with adult rated material, but given its being promoted by wordpress, lots of members there. whistle

Seems it isn't a network, but one that can be used to make one, on your own collection of sites, or something like that, if you use Wordpress MU.

me bad :whip:

QueerLust

05-12-2009, 05:50 PM

I just read an article about this (perhaps the NY Times?) the other day.

They have a VERY large team of paid community folks at Facebook.

They want to keep the site "mainstream" and advertiser friendly. The folks that decide what stays and what goes, and who work for Facebook, get to decide on their own what is acceptable and what is not.

They mentioned something like 400k photos flagged as inappropriate that they are working through. The journalist sat down with an employee as they were going through and documented what they allowed and what they didn't. Let's just say that it is totally at their discretion and I was surprised at how they let some things through and not other things.

Go figure.

There probably isn't any recourse, since advertisers are what pay their bills and mainstream advertisers are not too porn friendly.

Which is ironic, as some of the largest Fortune 500 companies own the largest porn companies (pay-per-view, magazines, etc.). That, and that sites like Yahoo take an anti-porn approach on the surface and then make a lot of profit by providing back end support for adult entertainment and product companies.

In other words, it's do as I say, not as I do.

BTW, hi everyone! Although I am familiar with this board, it is my first post. I've enjoyed being a lurker and enjoy being a bona fide member even more!

basschick

05-12-2009, 06:11 PM

welcome and congrats on making the decision to stop lurking and get to know us :)

I just read an article about this (perhaps the NY Times?) the other day.

They have a VERY large team of paid community folks at Facebook.

They want to keep the site "mainstream" and advertiser friendly. The folks that decide what stays and what goes, and who work for Facebook, get to decide on their own what is acceptable and what is not.

They mentioned something like 400k photos flagged as inappropriate that they are working through. The journalist sat down with an employee as they were going through and documented what they allowed and what they didn't. Let's just say that it is totally at their discretion and I was surprised at how they let some things through and not other things.

Go figure.

There probably isn't any recourse, since advertisers are what pay their bills and mainstream advertisers are not too porn friendly.

Which is ironic, as some of the largest Fortune 500 companies own the largest porn companies (pay-per-view, magazines, etc.). That, and that sites like Yahoo take an anti-porn approach on the surface and then make a lot of profit by providing back end support for adult entertainment and product companies.

In other words, it's do as I say, not as I do.

BTW, hi everyone! Although I am familiar with this board, it is my first post. I've enjoyed being a lurker and enjoy being a bona fide member even more!

tigermom

05-12-2009, 10:30 PM

I think that sucks that they don't have set criteria. Too much of a chance of unfair discrimination.

Reminds me of the Google keyword search tool, where they refuse to acknowledge terms like "gay sex" and "gay porn" (without the "gay" it's fine).

dzinerbear

05-13-2009, 03:22 AM

The folks that decide what stays and what goes, and who work for Facebook, get to decide on their own what is acceptable and what is not.

If this is the article you read (http://www.newsweek.com/id/195621?GT1=43002) it seems to indicate that the decision is not arbitrary, but based on some carefully crafted guidelines and rules.

Welcome to the board and thanks for coming out. :)

Michael

gaydemon

05-13-2009, 06:23 AM

Welcome, nice to see you join us.

From the sound of it, its just how Wikipedia works. I tried to get Gaydemon listed on there as I had seen other gay sites on there. I tried 3 times and the "editor" for my section or article was a real bitch.. He just wouldnt allow it and didnt care that others allowed exactly the same.

It was a very innocent article I added, nothing directly adult just text what "gaydemon" was.

I just read an article about this (perhaps the NY Times?) the other day.

They have a VERY large team of paid community folks at Facebook.

They want to keep the site "mainstream" and advertiser friendly. The folks that decide what stays and what goes, and who work for Facebook, get to decide on their own what is acceptable and what is not.

They mentioned something like 400k photos flagged as inappropriate that they are working through. The journalist sat down with an employee as they were going through and documented what they allowed and what they didn't. Let's just say that it is totally at their discretion and I was surprised at how they let some things through and not other things.

Go figure.

There probably isn't any recourse, since advertisers are what pay their bills and mainstream advertisers are not too porn friendly.

Which is ironic, as some of the largest Fortune 500 companies own the largest porn companies (pay-per-view, magazines, etc.). That, and that sites like Yahoo take an anti-porn approach on the surface and then make a lot of profit by providing back end support for adult entertainment and product companies.

In other words, it's do as I say, not as I do.

BTW, hi everyone! Although I am familiar with this board, it is my first post. I've enjoyed being a lurker and enjoy being a bona fide member even more!