stolen videos - itsallgay & gayforit still going strong

[gaydemon]

I happened to visit Itsallgay.com and Gayforit.com again today, noticed they are both still going strong. Except that the site owner now moved to Mauritious.

Infact it seems they have grown even bigger and now sharing even more stolen videos from all major Studios and producers.. (31,000 of them).

So I presume its pretty much a free for all when it comes to video sharing and nothing much happens to anyone who do?

Was anyone looking into setting up some sort of joint scheme to battle this..?

[dzinerbear]

I thought Titan sued Gayforit???

Michael

[Titanmen]

Yeah, they have gotten really, really bad lately! They are probably one of the top infringing gay tube sites.

The owner didn't move to Mauritius, he just moved the registration. He is still in the UK.

My suggestion….tell all the VOD distributors/Studios/Producers that you will no longer be a part of their affiliate program or send them traffic until they do something about the site. How do they expect you to try and compete against free stolen content? Make them take responsibility for protecting their content, so that you can sell it…or drop their affiliate programs from your sites.

Hold people responsible…..

[gaydemon]

They did and got a settlement. But no one else seems to have tried to go after them at least not openly.

I asked because I've seen a increase in how many bloggers use gayforit and share the videos on their blogs. And its not short video clips we are talking about here.

Gayforit also has no advertising, it seems to be only income from memberships. So they very cleverly have created a giant video site that they sell memberships for and dont have to pay for the content!




I thought Titan sued Gayforit???

Michael

[Tube4Gay]

Also JerkYourTube. Is that also run by the same people?

[dzinerbear]

Someone should post his URLs on the Chinese bulletin boards, those guys will bankrupt him.

Michael

[Squirt]

But no one else seems to have tried to go after them at least not openly.

Could it be that most big studios making millions of dollars see it as a cost of doing business?

The real people being hurt by file sharing sites are smaller studios who don't have in house lawyers to spend hundreds and thousands of dollars suing someone half way around the world. We've seen many smaller studious just disappear, which is not good for the industry, but great for the big studios who are banding together and suing. :bang:

[q1sites]

Gayforit now offer you a free advert for each video you find - FOR A WHOLE DAY! http://www.gayforit.com/advertise So get some quality traffic from them now.

Outrageous that they are SELLING membership to a site showing stolen videos.

[abostonboy]

Are there any Intense Cash videos in there? If anyone has a membership or has seen some can you PM me please.

[milivanili]

404,682

Number of members (free and paying)

[gaydemon]

Thats a utterly brilliant idea! lol


Someone should post his URLs on the Chinese bulletin boards, those guys will bankrupt him.

Michael

[gaydemon]

Honestly these guys are being allowed to run a membership site using stolen content. The producers of the content are allowing them and approve of what they do by not doing anything about it.

Meanwhile affiliates like myself and others on here worry about publishing a image or two without asking. We take the time to follow rules, asking before using and making sure we are doing the right thing.

So yet again it shows if you want to make money in this business you are encouraged to steal, cheat and use what you wish. No one will do anything about it.

I know for sure that many producers (not all) make a huge amount of money, so to me its only short term greed that makes people not wanting to spend a part of that on legal fees. Any real business needs to set aside money for legal costs, I've myself spend around $10,000 protecing my brand this year alone!

If you think back a few months Alphamalecash got hounded down and lost many affiliates because they actually responded and tried to do something about the stolen videos they hosted. So actually if they just had ignored it, they would have been better off..

I feel bad about how they got treated, just plain wrong that they get treated one way while others (bigger sites) gets away with it. :no:

So why should I not promote Alphamalecash? Why were they done an example of when others are far worse?

[gaybucks_chip]

We are dealing currently with infringement issues on several sites, and we've talked to a couple of studios (who I won't name) and asked if they would contribute some number of dollars per month (we tossed around numbers between $100 and $1000, depending on size of stduio, number of videos/dvds/clips, etc)

In each case, we were told "Oh, it's just part of doing business, and it's too much trouble to worry about."

Absolutely amazing to me that a studio or producer won't even put up $100 a month -- that's 5 sales -- to help get their content down, and to potentially collect from the infringers.

But it's the same short-term mentality we've always seen.

[Ben]

If someone started to reprint books or make pirated CDs and sell them as if they were his own, would the UK police do anything about it? This is essentially the same situation. Why don't they close his "office"?

Unforunately, he does the payments processing by himself now. So there's no way to turn that off. Or perhaps his online secure certificate can be revoked?

[dzinerbear]

This is essentially the same situation. Why don't they close his "office"?

Because it's just porn. Who cares?

Michael

[gaydemon]

Well actually I think there has been some recent cases with Porn. The law doesnt care if its porn or anything else. its still the same laws. Its just that its down to the owners to do it.



If someone started to reprint books or make pirated CDs and sell them as if they were his own, would the UK police do anything about it? This is essentially the same situation. Why don't they close his "office"?

Unforunately, he does the payments processing by himself now. So there's no way to turn that off. Or perhaps his online secure certificate can be revoked?


Because it's just porn. Who cares?

Michael

[gaydemon]

Yes, thats my point exactly. Any serious business will need to set aside and budget for legal costs and be prepared to spend on legal help.



We are dealing currently with infringement issues on several sites, and we've talked to a couple of studios (who I won't name) and asked if they would contribute some number of dollars per month (we tossed around numbers between $100 and $1000, depending on size of stduio, number of videos/dvds/clips, etc)

In each case, we were told "Oh, it's just part of doing business, and it's too much trouble to worry about."

Absolutely amazing to me that a studio or producer won't even put up $100 a month -- that's 5 sales -- to help get their content down, and to potentially collect from the infringers.

But it's the same short-term mentality we've always seen.

[abostonboy]

We are dealing currently with infringement issues on several sites, and we've talked to a couple of studios (who I won't name) and asked if they would contribute some number of dollars per month (we tossed around numbers between $100 and $1000, depending on size of stduio, number of videos/dvds/clips, etc)

In each case, we were told "Oh, it's just part of doing business, and it's too much trouble to worry about."

Absolutely amazing to me that a studio or producer won't even put up $100 a month -- that's 5 sales -- to help get their content down, and to potentially collect from the infringers.

But it's the same short-term mentality we've always seen.

We are protecting our brand and copyright violations at a great cost.

I just think some companies don't have the cash right now to do it.

[gaydemon]

I wonder if there are any legal implications if you know about it but wait until later to take legal action.

I know when it comes to trademark if you leave it and do nothing about it it means they have a chance to gain the right to use the name / brand
.


We are protecting our brand and copyright violations at a great cost.

I just think some companies don't have the cash right now to do it.

[Gaystoryman]

perhaps to set a damage amount? longer its up, more it may be shown to have cost a company, in lost revenues? darned if I know, but you would think others would be as proactive as Titan, but aren't, which makes you wonder. least it does me.

[Adam Mason]

I have offered to join a co-alition on this board many times - but no-one has invited me. And yes, I would happily spend $1,000 - $2,000 a month if it worked - and yes, I would give it a go for 6 months to see if it worked!

[RocketJD]

We're absolutely willing to contribute as well. Legit affiliates are getting murdered by these sites.

If we had 10 companies contributing $1000 a month... that's a decent start to get someone to do research and a paralegal to blanket sites, hosts, and processors with paperwork.

I guess the weak point in the plan is that you would still need the participation of a majority of content producers so the organization could send take downs on their behalf.

[Squirt]

I'm in for being part of a coalition.

I'm also very good at research and would contribute :cool:

The huge studios are banding together for their interest, it's time we do the same.

It would be prudent for us to not promote sites that contribute to this problem as well (ie. sites that have links to torrents, advertise on torrents, etc.) This could be very powerful leverage with JUB and Gaydemon involved. I'm sure MOTN and others would go along too.