View Full Version : advice to a wanna be pornstar?
gaydemon
03-17-2008, 10:55 AM
Its sort of a repeat, but today I got a good example of a question I often get (more or less weekly) on gaydemon:
"My name is jeremy kreutz im 21 years old and i guess i would consider myself as a twink. My question is how do i get into the adult film industry? For some reason its something that i always have wanted to do. if you could respond to this i would greatly appreciate it. thanks"
What "good" advice could I give this guy if at all?
gaybucks_chip
03-17-2008, 11:52 AM
As soon as we finish the text, we have a website for just this purpose, tells models what to expect, what is and is not customary in the industry, issues with safety, etc.
Here's some basics
-- Ask around and find other models that have worked with the studio you're considering working for. (Preferably not ones given you as references by the studio.) Ask about their experiences. Was everything professional? Did the producer hit on them? Did they get paid as agreed?
-- Look around for yourself and find out if the studio is a well-established one or a startup; be wary of one you've never heard of.
-- Get everything in writing. A reputable studio will have some sort of agreement spelling out the exact terms of payment, number of scenes, what you'll be expected to do, who pays for transportation, food, lodging, etc.
-- My personal opinion is that models should not bareback. There is no way to make it safe, even if the models are tested at the time of the shoot, because of the latency period. Additionally, very few studios test for STIs other than HIV; hep-C and syphillis are both on the rise and not particularly easy to treat. However, if a model regularly barebacks or is willing to accept the risk, insist that the studio tests for all STIs, either uses AIM for testing or takes all the models to a test site when they arrive; relying on models to provide test results is unreliable, since they can easily be faked. Better studios test ALL models, whether or not they are shooting safer content.
-- Make sure in advance that you will be able to get copies of anything else the studio asks you to sign when you get there, and ask them to put that in writing before you arrive. Some unscrupulous studios make you sign documents with complex legal language and don't give you copies of it.
-- Never make a decision about working with a studio before talking to the actual producer or director or someone who will actually be one of the responsible people at the shoot. Scouts have been known to make ridiculous promises that create real problems for both the models and the studio.
-- Use your common sense and intuition. If anything sounds shady or questionable when you're talking to the scout or to the producer, ask more questions until you are completely comfortable. Don't agree to go unless and until you feel completely comfortable.
-- Be sure to tell at least one trusted friend where you're going, who you'll be working with, addresses and phone numbers, etc. Make arrangements to call them within a day of arriving, and ask them to take steps (calling police, etc) if they haven't heard from you. Fortunately, really bad situations are very rare in the industry, but particularly since many models don't tell parents or close friends before their first shoot, it's wise to make sure you've taken precautions.
gaydemon
03-17-2008, 01:02 PM
Wow, thats really helpfull!
Please let me know when your site is up - I will link to it from gaydemon if you dont mind and use it to send guys with these sort of questions to.
But what about studios, how does someone who wants to do porn find a studio?
I normally just say look up some membership sites.. but I got a feeling studio isnt the same thing as a site?
Wow, thats really helpfull!
Please let me know when your site is up - I will link to it from gaydemon if you dont mind and use it to send guys with these sort of questions to.
But what about studios, how does someone who wants to do porn find a studio?
I normally just say look up some membership sites.. but I got a feeling studio isnt the same thing as a site?
sites that shoot their own content would be a studio I guess but most sites just buy content FROM a studio
JoeSchmoeProductions
03-17-2008, 01:25 PM
Gaybucks_chip Has it exactly right.....Great advice....
But in reality...If youve sent your pics and info to some studios that make films you'd like to be in and havent been contacted....then you may have to take a more local approach...or maybe even appear in amateur first...like Tommy Deluca and others....
If you just want to get infront of a cam...then try to look for some local adult gigs first...Craigslist comes to mind...or contact some amateur producers..google gay amateur videos, and you will see that there are many amateur videomakers that might use you....and you could use them as a stepping stone to get where you wanna be...
gaybucks_chip
03-17-2008, 01:26 PM
We have a solution upcoming for that as well... AJ and I realized that we have close to 3,000 guys that have applied to our current modeling applicant database and we're working on a (separate) new site that will allow producers that we've screened and have a reasonable belief are legitimate, good people to have access to our database. Coincident with that, we'll also be advertising the site more widely to potential models. There will be some cost to producers, we haven't worked out the details yet, but it won't be something that gouges people
barnkin
03-17-2008, 01:30 PM
Please make sure you post your site when it is up, I receive a lot of e-mails asking how to get into porn. I usually point them at a couple studios and wish them good luck.
basschick
03-17-2008, 01:45 PM
some very good advice here.
btw, if a model gets some professional - or at least professsional looking - pics, he can also list on onemodelplace.com and maybe some similar sites as an adult and fetish model.
barnkin
03-17-2008, 02:09 PM
Thanks Basschick, will bookmark that one
gaybucks_chip
03-17-2008, 03:29 PM
If you just want to get infront of a cam...then try to look for some local adult gigs first...Craigslist comes to mind...or contact some amateur producers..google gay amateur videos
This isn't bad advice, but I think you have to be VERY careful in these situations. Particularly on Craigslist, there are a lot of guys trolling for sex, and I've heard more than a few stories from models of "producers" who say they want a model to do a solo, which turns into the "producer" wanting to blow the model or have sex with him, and sometimes it can get very uncomfortable and creepy.
Part of the reason I generally discourage first-time models from working with unknown producers is simply because of the vulnerability. The model doesn't really know what's appropriate, and let's face it, it's hard to be much more vulnerable than being naked and having sex or jerking off in front of some guy you just met. I've talked to several models who had a very negative experience with one of these "amateur" producers (who, in many cases, aren't even producers at all, just creepy guys making videos for their own use) and it turns them off permanently to the industry.
I guess for a new model who doesn't immediately get an offer from a studio or reputable producer, I'd suggest doing some camming on a free site, posting some videos on xtube, maybe going to work for someone like men with cams, and getting a feel for it that way.
basschick
03-17-2008, 04:00 PM
while craigslist has some good jobs, they also have some serious bullshit. our non-adult models have each gone to at least two shoots after telling the guys clearly that they did not do sex or any kind or full nudity, and once they got to the shoots, they were pressured to at least jack off.
perhaps the best way to deal with craigslist if the photographer doesn't sound convincing would be to ask if you can bring a chaperone...
This isn't bad advice, but I think you have to be VERY careful in these situations. Particularly on Craigslist, there are a lot of guys trolling for sex, and I've heard more than a few stories from models of "producers" who say they want a model to do a solo, which turns into the "producer" wanting to blow the model or have sex with him, and sometimes it can get very uncomfortable and creepy.
Part of the reason I generally discourage first-time models from working with unknown producers is simply because of the vulnerability. The model doesn't really know what's appropriate, and let's face it, it's hard to be much more vulnerable than being naked and having sex or jerking off in front of some guy you just met. I've talked to several models who had a very negative experience with one of these "amateur" producers (who, in many cases, aren't even producers at all, just creepy guys making videos for their own use) and it turns them off permanently to the industry.
I guess for a new model who doesn't immediately get an offer from a studio or reputable producer, I'd suggest doing some camming on a free site, posting some videos on xtube, maybe going to work for someone like men with cams, and getting a feel for it that way.