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MediaAbuseLLC
07-28-2008, 01:56 AM
Media Abuse, LLC (http://mediaabusellc.com/) was designed to assist gay adult webmasters, studios, and producers of gay content in shutting down the sharing or illegal disposition of copyrighted materials that are being pirated (shared) on the internet.

MediaAbuseLLC (http://mediaabusellc.com/) is a new venture that I recently started, upon the suggestion of Bryan Ockert of Chaosmen. Here is a little of what Bryan had to say after the first three days of our service for him:

“MediaAbuseLLC is doing great! I think most companies have a small staff..and they think that staff can cover it. Not true..who wants to pay a staff members taxes, unemployment and insurance to comb the net and find stolen content...

We had a conference call on Friday and I mentioned the 85 or so files you had found and had removed, in just 3 days.

I don't think $100-150 bucks a month is too much to have this kind of service. But then again..I am the only employee here, so the idea of paying a small fee for someone to "inhibit" file sharing seems like a fantastic idea to me! Sign me up!"
Bryan Ockert - Chaosmen.com

About our website's blog format: I recently purchased the domain, but I've been so busy actually working that I haven't had the time to create a better looking website; the blog option was the fastest way to at least give people a point of reference.

We specialize in Gay content only; I leave the other stuff to the other guys...

MediaAbuseLLC has had over 3,600 digital files deleted from various file-sharing hosts since it's very recent beginning on Jun 16, 2008.

TW Smith, CEO/Webmaster
MediaAbuseLLC.com (http://mediaabusellc.com/)

GTP
07-28-2008, 02:43 AM
I suggest everybody to take a look at other threads about this company on this board to have a better idea of what exacly they are before using them.

gaybucks_chip
07-28-2008, 03:19 AM
I did a quick search and couldn't find any other threads. Can you give a link? :)

GTP
07-28-2008, 03:45 AM
I did a quick search and couldn't find any other threads. Can you give a link? :)

right, it was at another gay webmasters board. I ti allowed to post links of other boards?

abostonboy
07-28-2008, 07:12 AM
GTP,

It is the policy of this board to allow links to other boards.

Best,
Lloyd

GTP
07-28-2008, 08:44 AM
good, so I suggest you to take a look at this thread

http://www.gaymainstreet.com/TheStreets/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10102

and at other threads talking about MediaAbuse
http://www.gaymainstreet.com/TheStreets/search.php?s=&action=showresults&searchid=97071

MediaAbuseLLC
07-28-2008, 10:16 AM
good, so I suggest you to take a look at this thread
http://www.gaymainstreet.com/TheStreets/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10102
and at other threads talking about MediaAbuse
http://www.gaymainstreet.com/TheStreets/search.php?s=&action=showresults&searchid=97071

I posted here on Gaydemon because this board is more professional than the very outrageous lies and allegations that have been allowed to be posted at GayMainStreet.

None of the posts you cite (from GayMainStreet) have any factual basis whatsoever. One of the responses from GayMainStreet include this outrageous and ridiculous post:

"i think the problem is that you may get the videos removed but if your the one that uploads them its kinda point less"

This libelous comment doesn't even make sense; we spend hours and hours researching the internet hunting down pirated files, why we would "upload" some just to have them taken down is ludicrous. Again, there is no documentation to support this completely ridiculous and false allegation of our company. This comment has also been forwarded to our counsel, as we believe a tort of defamation has occurred.

None of the outrageous comments posted at GayMainStreet were from clients of MediaAbuseLLC. If you would like, I can put you in contact with our clients, who very much appreciate what we do for them.

GTP
07-28-2008, 10:24 AM
I posted here on Gaydemon because this board is more professional than the very outrageous lies and allegations that have been allowed to be posted at GayMainStreet.

None of the posts you cite (from GayMainStreet) have any factual basis whatsoever. One of the responses from GayMainStreet include this outrageous and ridiculous post:

"i think the problem is that you may get the videos removed but if your the one that uploads them its kinda point less"

This libelous comment doesn't even make sense; we spend hours and hours researching the internet hunting down pirated files, why we would "upload" some just to have them taken down is ludicrous. Again, there is no documentation to support this completely ridiculous and false allegation of our company. This comment has also been forwarded to our counsel, as we believe a tort of defamation has occurred.

None of the outrageous comments posted at GayMainStreet were from clients of MediaAbuseLLC. If you would like, I can put you in contact with our clients, who very much appreciate what we do for them.

I suggest everybody to check the threads before working with this LLC (that is not an LLC as, according to the posts they made, their application is currently in process but they use it anyway in the name).

Squirt
07-28-2008, 11:52 AM
I suggest everybody to check the threads before working with this LLC (that is not an LLC as, according to the posts they made, their application is currently in process but they use it anyway in the name).

Do you know what state he's in and the status of his LLC application?

If not it seems you're counting on innuendo to make a point that you can't verify.

Can you please post verifiable facts that can back up your claims?

GTP
07-28-2008, 12:02 PM
Do you know what state he's in and the status of his LLC application?

If not it seems you're counting on innuendo to make a point that you can't verify.

Can you please post verifiable facts that can back up your claims?

Just quoting the MediaAbuse post at gaymainstreet
http://www.gaymainstreet.com/TheStreets/showthread.php?postid=91353#post91353

Squirt
07-28-2008, 12:07 PM
Just quoting the MediaAbuse post at gaymainstreet

So you're not endorsing them as being true?

GTP
07-28-2008, 12:15 PM
So you're not endorsing them as being true?

I said what I said, nothing else


I suggest everybody to check the threads before working with this LLC (that is not an LLC as, according to the posts they made, their application is currently in process but they use it anyway in the name).

I think everybody can have their own opinion about this company but I think it is really good to read the threads I posted before to decide to work or not with them

Squirt
07-28-2008, 12:33 PM
I think everybody can have their own opinion about this company but I think it is really good to read the threads I posted before to decide to work or not with them

I totally agree.

Can we agree that our opinions should be based on fact?

I, along with others, am neutral on this particular issue and feel we should all have opinions based on informed fact.

According to legalzoom.com (http://www.legalzoom.com/dba-state-requirements/new-mexico-dba.html) which is co founded by the famous attorney Robert Shapiro:

The exclusive right to use a name may be reserved by:

• A person intending to organize a LLC and to adopt that name

• A LLC or a foreign LLC registered in New Mexico that intends to adopt that name

• A foreign LLC intending to register in New Mexico and to adopt that name

• A person intending to organize a foreign LLC and to have it registered in New Mexico and to adopt that name

People in that thread implying that the business name Media Abuse LLC is invalid are misinformed and have opinions not based on fact, or the law.

Squirt
07-28-2008, 02:09 PM
Something disturbing I found being distributed as fact on the site you referenced was that WWW (Media Abuse LLC) was the owner of GayForIt, but that doesn't seem to be the case as GLBT Ltd, who owns GayForIt, seems to be run from the UK and they registered their trademark logo with the UK intellectual property office, as you can see here (http://www.ipo.gov.uk/tm/t-journal/t-tmj/journals/6724/domestic/2475901.html). ( Trade Mark 2475901 via Steven Compton (http://www.ipo.gov.uk/t-find-number?detailsrequested=C&trademark=2475901) )

The company GLBT Ltd which owns GayForIt, JerkYourTube, etc. is also a valid company in the UK ( Registered No. 05266594 , SIC cdoe 92340 - Other entertainment activities not elsewhere classified )

You can find their address, annual accounts info, directors info, etc here (http://www.ukdata.com/numbers/05266594.html).

If you do a 192.com search (http://www.192.com/search/people.cfm) under their listed address ( 12, WOOD END WAY, CHANDLER'S FORD, EASTLEIGH, HAMPSHIRE) You find that it is a valid address with a 17-20 year old living with a couple people in their 60's.

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Electoral Roll 2002 - 2007 Sign in or register and get credits to view full details
Full Details XXXXXXX X XXXXXXX 12 WOOD END WAY CHANDLER'S FORD EASTLEIGH HAMPSHIRE XXXXXXX
Age guide: 60-64 (?), other occupants XXXXXX X XXXXXXX, XXXXXXX XXXXXXX, XXXXX X XXXXXXX, XXXXXXXX X XXXXXXX

Full Details XXXXXXXX X XXXXXXX 12 WOOD END WAY CHANDLER'S FORD EASTLEIGH HAMPSHIRE XXXXXXX
other occupants XXXXXX X XXXXXXX, XXXXXXX X XXXXXXX, XXXXXXX XXXXXXX, XXXXX X XXXXXXX

Full Details XXXXX X XXXXXXX 12 WOOD END WAY CHANDLER'S FORD EASTLEIGH HAMPSHIRE XXXXXXX
other occupants XXXXXX X XXXXXXX, XXXXXXX X XXXXXXX, XXXXXXX XXXXXXX, XXXXXXXX X XXXXXXX

Full Details XXXXXX X XXXXXXX 12 WOOD END WAY CHANDLER'S FORD EASTLEIGH HAMPSHIRE XXXXXXX
Age guide: 65+ (?), other occupants XXXXXXX X XXXXXXX, XXXXXXX XXXXXXX, XXXXX X XXXXXXX, XXXXXXXX X XXXXXXX

Full Details XXXXXXX XXXXXXX 12 WOOD END WAY CHANDLER'S FORD EASTLEIGH HAMPSHIRE XXXXXXX
Age guide: 17-20 (?), other occupants XXXXXX X XXXXXXX, XXXXXXX X XXXXXXX, XXXXX X XXXXXXX, XXXXXXXX X XXXXXXX

You can also find on 192.com that a director report is available at that address ( the director of GLBT Ltd , GayForIt )

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Director Report Sign in or register and get credits to view full details
Full Details XXXXX XXXXXX XXXXXXX 12 WOOD END WAY CHANDLER'S FORD EASTLEIGH HAMPSHIRE XXXXXXX
Age: 33
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So we have to previous statement put forth as fact that have now been proven to be nonfactual.

I'm neutral on this and just want to separate the facts from any drama that might be introduced into this thread.

abostonboy
07-28-2008, 02:30 PM
I am not going into any details about this situation in open, except to say that MediAbuse is owned by someone who originally ran some pirate blogs (openly admitted). Went legit with affiliate blogs. Then decided to open Media Abuse.

My main issue with Media Abuse is the fact that he advertises the service Media Abuse on the same blog as he advertises the tube sites in question, mainly gayforit.com. There is just some irony involved in advertising a tube site that is notorious for having stolen content repeatedly show up again and again after DMCA's are filed when you run a service to have stolen content removed.

MediaAbuseLLC
07-28-2008, 02:50 PM
I am not going into any details about this situation in open, except to say that MediAbuse is owned by someone who originally ran some pirate blogs (openly admitted). Went legit with affiliate blogs. Then decided to open Media Abuse.
My main issue with Media Abuse is the fact that he advertises the service Media Abuse on the same blog as he advertises the tube sites in question, mainly gayforit.com. There is just some irony involved in advertising a tube site that is notorious for having stolen content repeatedly show up again and again after DMCA's are filed when you run a service to have stolen content removed.


The websites, specifically JerkYourTube, GayForIt.com, and ItsAllGay.com are legitimate websites that go above and beyond the requirements of DMCA regulations. Yes, they did have a problem before because they allowed videos to be uploaded without being moderated, and hundreds of copyrighted videos slipped by; they have spent hours going through their databases and have removed any that were watermarked or were familiar.

The websites have removed any and all videos whenever they were notified of any copyright issues (usually the same day), in accordance with DMCA requirements, which they adhere to 100%. Now, all videos that are uploaded to these websites are monitored and now must be approved before going online.

So let's stop accusing legimate websites of being illegal or hosting pirated content, unless you have verifiable facts to back up your allegations.

Squirt
07-28-2008, 02:59 PM
The problem with Gayforit, etc. is they haven't introduced themselves as part of the community, and have tried to remain anonymous.

If I have a problem with any of the other tube sites I have the email addy of the owners and can contact them directly.

I've posted the GayForIt owners info in this thread so hopefully they'll become a member of the board and give us producers direct email info so we can have preferential treatment over any other DMCA notices they might receive as they will know we are who we say we are and get things done as quickly as possible for us.

abostonboy
07-28-2008, 03:55 PM
So let's stop accusing legimate websites of being illegal or hosting pirated content, unless you have verifiable facts to back up your allegations.

I will stop making statements about these sites.

As for your "verifiable facts" comment. I wont make an accusation that I can't back up.