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tigermom
07-23-2008, 11:03 AM
I know they're not kosher, but I think I need to learn more than that about them. Working on blog posts, I see some guys are wearing a shirt that says "Pig". Where should I take these posts? I did ask around, and if I understand correctly, they're "cum pigs" meaning they're into raw sex, not too much foreplay, and want to be on the receiving end of cum loads. Does that also suggest a submissive role? does that mean they always bottom? take facials? give oral sex?

More info would be great appreciated - I need to know how to sell those guys ;)

xstr8guy
07-23-2008, 11:10 AM
"Pig" just means that a guy is up for just about anything... piss, fisting, bondage, etc. A pig can play safe. It really has nothing to do with barback.

tigermom
07-23-2008, 12:04 PM
Just to clarify - this has nothing to do with my questions about bareback as a niche :) I didn't think it was related to bareback.

xstr8guy
07-23-2008, 12:21 PM
Just to clarify - this has nothing to do with my questions about bareback as a niche :) I didn't think it was related to bareback.

Aw, but you said something about "raw sex" in your first post. I thought it was a referrence to bareback. "Raw" generally means bareback. ;)

tigermom
07-23-2008, 12:27 PM
Aw, but you said something about "raw sex" in your first post. I thought it was a referrence to bareback. "Raw" generally means bareback. ;)

Hmmm didn't know that. That's something I need to know! Is raunchy the same way? For me raw and raunchy just means very basic, not sophisticated, not romantic - just pure "animal" sex.

AlexManifestMan
07-23-2008, 12:37 PM
It is almost easier to say what it isn't rather than what it is. Raunchy does not smell like cologne, it does not use endearments, it requires strong soap afterwards and is never ever done on the good sheets. It is not pretty, or romantic in the least. It needs harsh or no lighting, intense dirty talk or nothing but beastial noises. If there is the remote possibility that one or both of the parties will be called a name that would generate a fist fight between two straight guys, all the better. The props and toys used in raunchy sex are best found in a mechanics garage not a nightstand and must be heavily used. It is most often about the intensity of the sexual experience and has little to do with the physical appearance of the participants. At no point will the terms Tresemme Hair Salon or L'Oreal Paris Make-up Room be mentioned.

Just cause I sell solo doesn't mean that's all I know ;-)

raunchpup
07-23-2008, 01:27 PM
It is almost easier to say what it isn't rather than what it is. Raunchy does not smell like cologne, it does not use endearments, it requires strong soap afterwards and is never ever done on the good sheets. It is not pretty, or romantic in the least. It needs harsh or no lighting, intense dirty talk or nothing but beastial noises. If there is the remote possibility that one or both of the parties will be called a name that would generate a fist fight between two straight guys, all the better. The props and toys used in raunchy sex are best found in a mechanics garage not a nightstand and must be heavily used. It is most often about the intensity of the sexual experience and has little to do with the physical appearance of the participants. At no point will the terms Tresemme Hair Salon or L'Oreal Paris Make-up Room be mentioned.

Just cause I sell solo doesn't mean that's all I know ;-)

THANK YOU am so glad to hear someone point it right woof woof woof and i never play on clean sheets

rawTOP
07-23-2008, 01:42 PM
I agree with Alex - but would expand his definition a bit...

First, guys who wear "PIG" t-shirts fit his description... Most will let you piss on them, slap them - they like it when you treat them roughly, and so on - pretty much like he says... They like to have sex with guys who smell and act like men... Their limits can differ, however (many wouldn't get into scat, for example)...

But also in the pig category are "cum pigs". These guys are often very different. They're just obsessed with cum. Some like to get cum facials, others like to swallow, and yet others like to take loads up the ass. It's not weird to find them at fancy hotels, freshly showered, on 400 count sheets (with a towel down so the sheets don't get dirty)...

I would say that with most pigs (cum pigs and regular pigs) much of the sex is animalistic and physical in nature - not romantic. For them sex is an exchange of power - which is "intimate" in a very different way than romantic sex. There can be tender moments, however. I just wouldn't call the tenderness romantic.

xstr8guy
07-23-2008, 02:56 PM
It is almost easier to say what it isn't rather than what it is. Raunchy does not smell like cologne, it does not use endearments, it requires strong soap afterwards and is never ever done on the good sheets. It is not pretty, or romantic in the least. It needs harsh or no lighting, intense dirty talk or nothing but beastial noises. If there is the remote possibility that one or both of the parties will be called a name that would generate a fist fight between two straight guys, all the better. The props and toys used in raunchy sex are best found in a mechanics garage not a nightstand and must be heavily used. It is most often about the intensity of the sexual experience and has little to do with the physical appearance of the participants. At no point will the terms Tresemme Hair Salon or L'Oreal Paris Make-up Room be mentioned.

Just cause I sell solo doesn't mean that's all I know ;-)

I've learned two thing today. Alex is a pig. lol No one could define a pig that well and not be one. WOOF!

Alex watches Project Runway. DOUBLE WOOF!

Be still my heart.

gaydemon
07-23-2008, 03:17 PM
Thats the best explenation I have ever heard, and probably will ever hear! :D

But that cant possibly be true, a perfect body and a filthy mind? The two can't possibly ever come together in one person! ;) That I thought was reserved for the Gods.


It is almost easier to say what it isn't rather than what it is. Raunchy does not smell like cologne, it does not use endearments, it requires strong soap afterwards and is never ever done on the good sheets. It is not pretty, or romantic in the least. It needs harsh or no lighting, intense dirty talk or nothing but beastial noises. If there is the remote possibility that one or both of the parties will be called a name that would generate a fist fight between two straight guys, all the better. The props and toys used in raunchy sex are best found in a mechanics garage not a nightstand and must be heavily used. It is most often about the intensity of the sexual experience and has little to do with the physical appearance of the participants. At no point will the terms Tresemme Hair Salon or L'Oreal Paris Make-up Room be mentioned.

Just cause I sell solo doesn't mean that's all I know ;-)

InsaneSimon
07-23-2008, 03:24 PM
Just realized that I own collegepig.com and collegepigs.com.... maybe i have to do something with it.

AlexManifestMan
07-23-2008, 04:10 PM
You guys are crackin' me up.

oh and Xstr8....MAKE IT WORK!

tigermom
07-23-2008, 11:08 PM
Excellent stuff, thanks guys.

Sorry for being a blonde, but I still have a few questions. When the guy in the pictures is a self proclaimed pig (by the shirt), should he be marketed as a submissive partner? I know that with similar rough sex scenarios in straight porn (and sex, actually), there's a definite power roleplay with the man being blatantly dominant, using what would otherwise be considered humiliating terminology (cumslut, whore etc). And yes, I see the point about the intimacy, because in the same straight setup, it's not really about humiliation, but about a kind of sexual heat that could also imply a great degree of intimacy.

So, the guy who declares himself to be a pig, is essentially asking to be cast in the submissive/receiving end of a rough sex scenario, right? With sales text, would it be appropriate to call out to the reader to "abuse" that guy? as in "he's dying for you to grab his head and shove your huge cock down his hungry throat"? stuff like that?

rawTOP
07-24-2008, 04:53 AM
When the guy in the pictures is a self proclaimed pig (by the shirt), should he be marketed as a submissive partner?

...

So, the guy who declares himself to be a pig, is essentially asking to be cast in the submissive/receiving end of a rough sex scenario, right?

I realized after I wrote what I wrote that I made it sound like pigs were bottoms. But that characterization isn't exactly true. There are definitely pig tops as well... I would say more guys who label themselves as pigs are bottoms (some would say there are more bottoms than tops to start with), but there are definitely pig tops as well.

The "cum pig" mentality is almost always a bottom mentality, but for piggy tops it's about raunchy, dirty sex...

dannyz
07-24-2008, 01:35 PM
Tiger Mom,

I'm also a kosher Jew getting used to marketing 'pigs' after working with all the great Hot Desert Knights content heheh. One other thing that I didn't see mentioned here, but that might be good for your sales text, is that pigs are fucking HORNY beasts!

Regarding your text, since it is a submissive pig, I would write it:
This filthy cum pig is dying for you to grab his head and shove your huge cock down his hungry throat so he can swallow every drop of your load!

Hope that helps!

tigermom
07-25-2008, 01:10 AM
Sure does help - thank you!