Back to Phoenix

[ChadKnowsLaw]

After 6 months in San Francisco, I have decided I just don't like being cold all the time. I am moving back to Phoenix after the Cybernet show.

I will only be working part-time for Kink after this, so I will once again be hanging my shingle, although I want to start back easy and definitely not take on any litigation for the rest of the year. Since I haven't left the country in a long time, my first plans are to take a well-deserved break in Bangkok for a few weeks, then back at the X Biz show in Las Vegas~

Kink has been great to work for but I just do not belong in San Francisco!

[gaydemon]

Good luck with the move!

I've been wanting to move to a warmer place and certainly less wet for 10 years now ;)

[xstr8guy]

Did you keep your house in Phoenix Chad or do you have to go house hunting now?

It sure will be nice to have you more active on the boards again. Welcome back!

[HunkMoneyLuke]

Good on ya, being comfy is so important to your overall mental health. Have a fun move back :)

[ChadKnowsLaw]

Did you keep your house in Phoenix Chad or do you have to go house hunting now?

It sure will be nice to have you more active on the boards again. Welcome back!

I had rented out my house on a 1 year lease but I have an empty condo to move into. Usually it was the other way around!

It will be an easy move back.

[AnthonyDeAngelo]

Oh Chad - I am so sorry to hear that you're not giving the bay area a bit more time - its a wonderful place and if you just head north, east or south, you'll find some of the most wonderful weather you can imagine...

Marin is fantastic with great places to live and lots of dry, hot stretches - same holds true for the east bay with Berkeley at the top of the list for us - just think, you could get a place near us in north Berkeley and come over for hot tubs all the time wearing your berkenstocks!

the south bay has very Tony places such as Atherton and Hillsborough - the home of some famous folks and legendary brands and robber barrons

or better yet, do what I always did in SF.... turn up the heat and wear lots of leather!

don't leave before we come up at the end of the month

I know what your real reason is, we Californians are way too into wine and lots of it... is that it?

[ChadKnowsLaw]

or better yet, do what I always did in SF.... turn up the heat and wear lots of leather!

don't leave before we come up at the end of the month

I know what your real reason is, we Californians are way too into wine and lots of it... is that it?

Nah, Californians into wine are no problem. Homeless winos are a bit much~

And as nice as the weather is a short drive from San Francisco, I don't want to live in a place that is a short drive from nice places -- I want to live _IN_ the nice place. I don't want to wait until the weekend to get outside. I want to be able to walk outside every day and feel comfortable. I want to be able to forget to lock my door and not be worried. I want to be able to have UPS deliver stuff to my door and leave it without fear it will be stolen. I want to be able to walk outside my door in the morning and not step over a homeless person, or piles of shit on the sidewalk. I want to walk on a sidewalk that has not been used as a urinal on a regular basis. I also want to be able to take my motorcycle to the bank, grocery store or post office and not have trouble finding a parking space. Then I want to be able to go inside that establishment without worrying about things being stolen from my saddlebags and not have to stand in line for everything. Then I want to be able to drive back home on smooth, clean streets that have large, legible signs and real turning lanes.
Basically, for me to be happy I need to be back in Phoenix. Sorry my friend, I cannot wait until the end of the month. Saturday morning I will be heading down the road kicking up rocks on my way home.

[AnthonyDeAngelo]

Nah, Californians into wine are no problem. Homeless winos are a bit much~

And as nice as the weather is a short drive from San Francisco, I don't want to live in a place that is a short drive from nice places -- I want to live _IN_ the nice place. I don't want to wait until the weekend to get outside. I want to be able to walk outside every day and feel comfortable. I want to be able to forget to lock my door and not be worried. I want to be able to have UPS deliver stuff to my door and leave it without fear it will be stolen. I want to be able to walk outside my door in the morning and not step over a homeless person, or piles of shit on the sidewalk. I want to walk on a sidewalk that has not been used as a urinal on a regular basis. I also want to be able to take my motorcycle to the bank, grocery store or post office and not have trouble finding a parking space. Then I want to be able to go inside that establishment without worrying about things being stolen from my saddlebags and not have to stand in line for everything. Then I want to be able to drive back home on smooth, clean streets that have large, legible signs and real turning lanes.
Basically, for me to be happy I need to be back in Phoenix. Sorry my friend, I cannot wait until the end of the month. Saturday morning I will be heading down the road kicking up rocks on my way home.

your right - you don't belong in our home town... sorry about that, most people hate it when they first move there - and that's good because its too tiny and squished for any more... that's why most sane San Franciscans have homes all over the state and all over the world! so we can travel to and fro when the weather is good here and there

one thing for sure, there's no expensive air conditioning bills to pay...

have you at least seen one performance of BEACH BLANKET BABYLON or gone to one symphony or opera yet?

[Bec]

I don't want to wait until the weekend to get outside. I want to be able to walk outside every day and feel comfortable. I want to be able to forget to lock my door and not be worried. I want to be able to have UPS deliver stuff to my door and leave it without fear it will be stolen. I want to be able to walk outside my door in the morning and not step over a homeless person, or piles of shit on the sidewalk. I want to walk on a sidewalk that has not been used as a urinal on a regular basis. I also want to be able to take my motorcycle to the bank, grocery store or post office and not have trouble finding a parking space. Then I want to be able to go inside that establishment without worrying about things being stolen from my saddlebags and not have to stand in line for everything.

I'm living in San Francisco??!?? Damn, here I thought I was in Cleveland....

Have a safe return home Chad. :)

[BabyMaker]

I'm living in San Francisco??!?? Damn, here I thought I was in Cleveland....

Have a safe return home Chad. :)

Sounded to me more like Motown Philly lol

[AnthonyDeAngelo]

why don't you drive the coast down and stop over here for a nice cup of home made clam chowder and a some BBQ tri-tip... could be fun!

[TropixxxMichael]

Chad,
Wherever you are most happy is where you should be. I love SanFran...to VISIT...but I would never want to live there. Remember how shocked I was to hear you were moving there? ;O) Glad to hear you are heading back to someplace you are happy.
- Michael

Matt says hello also.

[Seth]

Chad, my partner & I are hitting the road for a big move this Saturday too. We can't take the wet & grey here in Portland any longer! So after four years away, we're moving back to our hometown of Denver, one the sunniest cities in the US. We spent two years in San Diego and two in Portland. San Diego just wasn't us, and as for Portland, the green sure is pretty but man there are just too many sad faces here...

Safe travels!

[ChadKnowsLaw]

We all have the place where we really want to be. It could be Denver, Miami, Phoenix, or Tony & Cam's basement but wherever it is, that is the right spot.

Some of us need wide open spaces, some want 4 distinct seasons, some need beaches or ocean breezes, some need the activity and culture of a city like New York or San Francisco.

I need sunshine, warm weather, modern infrastructure and a big airport close by.

Oh, and cuddles from DonMike.

[xstr8guy]

... that's why most sane San Franciscans have homes all over the state and all over the world! so we can travel to and fro when the weather is good here and there

one thing for sure, there's no expensive air conditioning bills to pay...

Right. And paying multiple mortgages all over the world is less expensive than paying for a single air conditioning bill.

Earth to Tony... not everyone is rich. ;)

[ChadKnowsLaw]

My highest electric bill last year was $320 for the month of August -- most days over 110 degrees, two central A/C units running (top floor and ground floor) almost constantly, 2500 square foot house. I don't think that A/C bill was high at ALL. Further, what I paid for my house in Phoenix would not buy a decent size garage in California.

[xstr8guy]

My highest electric bill last year was $320 for the month of August -- most days over 110 degrees, two central A/C units running (top floor and ground floor) almost constantly, 2500 square foot house. I don't think that A/C bill was high at ALL. However, what I paid for my house in Phoenix would not buy a decent size garage in California.

I think houses in Phoenix must be super insulated. My sister lives there too and her utility bills are always a tiny fraction of our's in Dallas.

[gaybucks_chip]

My highest electric bill last year was $320 for the month of August -- most days over 110 degrees, two central A/C units running (top floor and ground floor) almost constantly, 2500 square foot house. I don't think that A/C bill was high at ALL. Further, what I paid for my house in Phoenix would not buy a decent size garage in California.

PG&E has obscenely high rates here in northern CA. My highest bill was over $1000 (electric only; gas is separate) and that was with minimal use of the air conditioner, but of course running the pool filter and the power for the computers, etc.

AJ lives about 15 minutes away from me, he has Sacramento Municipal Power, which isn't a greedy for-profit company, and his highest electric bill was about $150, but he doesn't run the A/C all the time either.

I'm really jealous, Chad. But then again... on the other hand, you have blistering heat for several months of the year where you can barely set foot outside the house for fear of turning into a human beef jerky stick :)

[ChadKnowsLaw]

you can barely set foot outside the house for fear of turning into a human beef jerky stick :)

what is wrong with being a hard, hot spicy hunk of beef???????

[basschick]

how often do you have power outages? we had 2 last summer - and one of them lasted from 7:30 pm till around 4 am.


My highest electric bill last year was $320 for the month of August -- most days over 110 degrees, two central A/C units running (top floor and ground floor) almost constantly, 2500 square foot house. I don't think that A/C bill was high at ALL. Further, what I paid for my house in Phoenix would not buy a decent size garage in California.

[ChadKnowsLaw]

how often do you have power outages?

What are those??

:D

Capacity in Arizona far exceeds maximum demand for electricity so power outages in Phoenix due to load just don't happen. I think the grid between Phoenix and Tucson is old and overtaxed so Tucson is not so secure against loss of power, but where I live there has not been an outage.

There is a "peaker" plant close to ASU that I have only seen working once -- and that was during the California brown outs.

[AnthonyDeAngelo]

What are those??

:D

Capacity in Arizona far exceeds maximum demand for electricity so power outages in Phoenix due to load just don't happen. I think the grid between Phoenix and Tucson is old and overtaxed so Tucson is not so secure against loss of power, but where I live there has not been an outage.

There is a "peaker" plant close to ASU that I have only seen working once -- and that was during the California brown outs.

of course you don't have power outages in Arizona Chad - that's because WE send you OUR power from our nearby NUCLEAR plant and that's one hell of a long extension cord! but that's the simple truth - you guys get our power - at least that's what our friend "homer" tells us

seriously, we don't even benefit from the local PG&E nuke which is crummy but then, we don't need much here - we don't need AC and the appliances are very new and efficient which is helpful (somebody reamed me somewhere else for this but its true... new appliances are a good thing)

and we use hand cranks to hoist our equipment and slings - which also saves

we just got back from LA which depends upon power for everything from turning on the water faucets to dispensing paper towels - that's just plain stupid!

[ChadKnowsLaw]

of course you don't have power outages in Arizona Chad - that's because WE send you OUR power from our nearby NUCLEAR plant and that's one hell of a long extension cord! but that's the simple truth - you guys get our power - at least that's what our friend "homer" tells us



You know I love you Tony, but "homer" is 180 degrees wrong. The Palo Verde nuclear plant just west of Phoenix is the largest nuclear power plant in the United States, and the second largest power plant of any kind.

http://www.aps.com/general_info/AboutAPS_18.html

http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/rankings/plantsbycapacity.htm


The generating capacity of Arizona is approximately 16 gigawatts, which puts Arizona in the position of excess capacity

http://www.raponline.org/Pubs/IRPsurvey/IRPAZ.pdf
(page 2)

So as much as you want to believe homer, he is completely backward on his position. These facts do not make Arizona a better place to live than California, but California power is not needed to keep Arizona homes and businesses cool, even when downtown Phoenix hits 118 degrees.

[AnthonyDeAngelo]

You know I love you Tony, but "homer" is 180 degrees wrong. The Palo Verde nuclear plant just west of Phoenix is the largest nuclear power plant in the United States, and the second largest power plant of any kind.

http://www.aps.com/general_info/AboutAPS_18.html

http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/rankings/plantsbycapacity.htm


The generating capacity of Arizona is approximately 16 gigawatts, which puts Arizona in the position of excess capacity

http://www.raponline.org/Pubs/IRPsurvey/IRPAZ.pdf
(page 2)

So as much as you want to believe homer, he is completely backward on his position. These facts do not make Arizona a better place to live than California, but California power is not needed to keep Arizona homes and businesses cool, even when downtown Phoenix hits 118 degrees.

I'm not arguing SIZE Chad, I never do that - all I was pointing out is the fact that the power plant near us provides a huge amount of power to Arizona and not to the Californians who live nearby from LA to SF....