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InsaneSimon
03-05-2010, 01:57 AM
Here my little rant of the day.

I had one tube, several blogs and several tgp hosted on the same server. Don't ask me why but one tgp trade script had problems with memcache. My hoster fixing it messed up memcache settings for the tube. Now they don't know where's the problem :grrr:

My rule for 2010 will be "one server for each service"

gaydemon
03-05-2010, 02:28 AM
Tell me about it, I had issues with the server I hosted my streaming server (wowza) and a couple of other sites. So important how you spread out your sites.

HunkMoneyLuke
03-05-2010, 05:50 AM
Yup, its extremely import to balance your servers and your sites with your risks and business models.

Tanker
03-05-2010, 08:53 AM
check out www.securedservers.com they make it affordable to do this too!

InsaneSimon
03-05-2010, 08:55 AM
check out www.securedservers.com they make it affordable to do this too!

Thank you for the suggestion but I'm hosted with NatNet and I'm really happy about them. They're really professional :)

Tanker
03-05-2010, 09:00 AM
dont get my wrong I love national net! but if you need good servers on the same bandwidth they are fantastic and owned by CCBill

zbuckz_lloyd
03-05-2010, 10:12 AM
Here my little rant of the day.

I had one tube, several blogs and several tgp hosted on the same server. Don't ask me why but one tgp trade script had problems with memcache. My hoster fixing it messed up memcache settings for the tube. Now they don't know where's the problem :grrr:

My rule for 2010 will be "one server for each service"

Woof! memcache. I like. :)

InsaneSimon
03-05-2010, 10:39 AM
Woof! memcache. I like. :)

I don't agree 666

InsaneSimon
03-05-2010, 09:21 PM
Tell me about it, I had issues with the server I hosted my streaming server (wowza) and a couple of other sites. So important how you spread out your sites.

I agree. Now I asked to leave just the tube on this server and move tgp and blogs on server #2. Soon I'll order server #3 and #4. Server #4 will be a db server.

RDude
03-05-2010, 09:34 PM
I've been looking for an alternative to my dedicated server host (I don't want to mention who though for personal reasons), and the more I look around, the more I realize I'm paying a little too much for what I get.

Moving my WHOLE little empire though. No thanks!

tim
03-06-2010, 03:59 AM
Let me see if I understand this correctly. It's safer to have different kinds of sites (forms of sites, not talking about niche) hosted on different companies? For example, all your blogs hosted by one company, you tube site(s) by another hosting companay, tgp's on another, freesites on yet another hosting company?

InsaneSimon
03-06-2010, 04:15 AM
Let me see if I understand this correctly. It's safer to have different kinds of sites (forms of sites, not talking about niche) hosted on different companies? For example, all your blogs hosted by one company, you tube site(s) by another hosting companay, tgp's on another, freesites on yet another hosting company?

Some people do that for other reasons. If datacenter 1 goes down, they can auto-route traffic to datacenter 2. But at present serious companies host their servers in the most advanced datacentes around the world. They have all things to ensure a 99,9% uptime.

If you have a decent amount of traffic you should start think about how to optimize your servers. There's not one rule. IE: are you a blogger with dozens of blogs? You should consider to split web content from db. In order to do that you need two servers, one web server and on db server. Do you have a tube site? You should consider to host content on a separate server. The solutions could be thousands!

tim
03-06-2010, 04:22 AM
Interesting, thanks, Simon. Something good to keep in mind at this early stage in the biz. Starting with blogs but also thinking more and more of doing a tube site(s) at some point.

tombarr
03-06-2010, 11:40 AM
Moving my WHOLE little empire though. No thanks!

Some server hosts will actually do the moves of data and domains for ya! :)

RDude
03-06-2010, 11:46 AM
Some server hosts will actually do the moves of data and domains for ya! :)

Yeah, but as you know, if you want done things the right way, doing it yourself is usually the best way to go. Thing is, I haven't got the time right now to do it.

However...if I come across a super wicked deal, chances are I'll make the move. It all comes to financial overhead after all. ;)

HunkMoneyLuke
03-07-2010, 02:23 PM
Let me see if I understand this correctly. It's safer to have different kinds of sites (forms of sites, not talking about niche) hosted on different companies? For example, all your blogs hosted by one company, you tube site(s) by another hosting companay, tgp's on another, freesites on yet another hosting company?

I would not go that far, actually, I find the opposite is better because companies setup servers differently. If you stick with one company, its much much easier to occasionally move stuff from server to server to ensure you have the right balances!

HunkMoneyLuke
03-07-2010, 02:25 PM
Some server hosts will actually do the moves of data and domains for ya! :)

NationalNet will not only move files, databases, etc, but will also check through scripts for you and make adjustments to paths or setups to ensure things work after the move. Then they show you how to mod your HOSTS file so you can check everything beforehand. I just migrated BritishBucks servers to NationalNet in January and it was the easiest move I had ever done cuz they did 95% of the work for me :D

GoldBarsxxx
03-07-2010, 05:35 PM
All depends on how much traffic you got, usage, services, etc.
I can get you a great deal with cyberwurx.

zbuckz_lloyd
03-08-2010, 06:35 AM
I don't agree 666

What are you using memcache for?

InsaneSimon
03-08-2010, 06:37 AM
What are you using memcache for?

http://www.smarttubepro.com/

Daniel
03-08-2010, 06:39 AM
http://www.smarttubepro.com/

We had a few initial problems with memcache for smart tube pro - it can be a bit of a pain.

zbuckz_lloyd
03-08-2010, 06:39 AM
Ahh ok. We use memcaching on the forums and it works great for that.