GayDemon Top List

[gaydemon]

I've finally managed to setup a Top List script on GayDemon and would love if any of you would like to participate and try it out. I'm very new to toplists, so any feedback or suggestions are welcome!

http://www.gaydemon.com/toplist/

It's very easy to setup an account, you simply signup and enter your details. However it requires manual validation by me so you might not see your site straight away.

This is how it works.

1. Software tracks any incoming and outgoing traffic to and from listed sites.
2. Every hour the toplist is re-calculated and site ranks are updated.
3. Sites are listed by amount of unique visitors sent to gaydemon toplist.
4. Top 15 spots gets their banner shown.
5. Every 24 hours the list is reset back to 0.

In theory a toplist gives more traffic the higher your site is ranked. This is a very new but as the toplist grows it should start to generate some nice traffic.

Signup here:

http://www.gaydemon.com/toplist/accounts.php

Link to this tracking URL:

http://www.gaydemon.com/toplist/

It will track any traffic from the domain you register as long as you send it to the above URL.

[basschick]

how often does it reset?

[Tube4Gay]

what's a top list?
I mean it looks like link exchanges and stuff, but what are the "rules"?

[gaydemon]

A Top List is quite straight forward. You can list your site and the more traffic you send (unique hits) the higher Rank and better position you get on the Top 100. The script records your incoming and outgoing clicks automatically.

The higher up on the list, the more traffic you get. At least in theory. It's very new so will take time to settle and start to work properly.

The Rankings (position of sites) are re-calculated every hour and resets every 24 hours, but stats are stored for up to a year. Monthly in and out traffic also shown on listings.

[Mickey]

you might want to tweek the reranking time as 24 hours is a bit of time to wait for it to adjust your position according to the amount of traffic sent, especially when you reset ever 7 days..

[gaydemon]

you might want to tweek the reranking time as 24 hours is a bit of time to wait for it to adjust your position according to the amount of traffic sent, especially when you reset ever 7 days..

I'm totally new to this so need feedback.

I've changed it now to updating hourly and resets every 24 hours.

The only other choice is ranking sites on historical stats which would be anything up to the current day, but then ranks can only be updated every 24 hours and not like hourly as I have changed it to now.

[gaydemon]

Sorry, I was wrong. I've edited my first post to reflect how it works. It's now ranked every hour.

[HunkMoneyLuke]

oh kewl, I will get one of my higher traffic blogs listed today :)

[Tube4Gay]

A Top List is quite straight forward. You can list your site and the more traffic you send (unique hits) the higher Rank and better position you get on the Top 100. The script records your incoming and outgoing clicks automatically.

The higher up on the list, the more traffic you get. At least in theory. It's very new so will take time to settle and start to work properly.

The Rankings (position of sites) are re-calculated every hour and resets every 24 hours, but stats are stored for up to a year. Monthly in and out traffic also shown on listings.

What script do you use? Or did you write it yourself?

[Mickey]

I'm totally new to this so need feedback.

I've changed it now to updating hourly and resets every 24 hours.

The only other choice is ranking sites on historical stats which would be anything up to the current day, but then ranks can only be updated every 24 hours and not like hourly as I have changed it to now.
hehe i understand no problems there - toplists is something i do know a bit about so glad to offer the advice.

normally what you should look at is how often does it reset as that will matter when finding out how often you want it to rerank.. the longer between resets the longer you can have between reranks..

if you reset ever day i would suggest no more than 15 minutes between the reranks as otherwise small sites could end up sending so few hits that they dont make it onto the list before it resets again..

i will add a few of my sites to the list over the weekend to test it out..

[gaydemon]

What script do you use? Or did you write it yourself?

Its called ToplistX by JMB software, it's ok but not sure I would recommend it. I don't like how it cant combine last 24hours traffic with historical traffic to create ranks. You're stuck with either using the last 24 hours or historical stats for ranking sites.

[gaydemon]

hehe i understand no problems there - toplists is something i do know a bit about so glad to offer the advice.

normally what you should look at is how often does it reset as that will matter when finding out how often you want it to rerank.. the longer between resets the longer you can have between reranks..

if you reset ever day i would suggest no more than 15 minutes between the reranks as otherwise small sites could end up sending so few hits that they dont make it onto the list before it resets again..

i will add a few of my sites to the list over the weekend to test it out..

Thanks, please do add some sites. It's got traffic, sending out more than it recieves even. But just a bit low on ranked sites.

Any feedback is really appriciated too.

I don't think ToplistX resets at all, it ranks by a rolling count on the last 24 hours. It just checks what time it is, counts incoming unique hits in the last 24 hours and ranks by highest amount. Or is that what a reset is? It doesn't actually go back to 0 though.

[Mickey]

Thanks, please do add some sites. It's got traffic, sending out more than it recieves even. But just a bit low on ranked sites.

Any feedback is really appriciated too.

I don't think ToplistX resets at all, it ranks by a rolling count on the last 24 hours. It just checks what time it is, counts incoming unique hits in the last 24 hours and ranks by highest amount. Or is that what a reset is? It doesn't actually go back to 0 though.
ahhh they might have changed this from the older version i run...

my script counts the hits in any given time period between resets and can rerank at any given time interval too but i have no knowledge of the way the new list works..

[gaydemon]

ahhh they might have changed this from the older version i run...

my script counts the hits in any given time period between resets and can rerank at any given time interval too but i have no knowledge of the way the new list works..

Yes, it's totally changed. It confused the hell out of me. But actually it seems to work quite well with doing it that way rather than reseting to 0.

[gaydemon]

Thanks for the new submissions. Just got to point out that toplists works by you sending some traffic.. so important to at least try and send some hits using banners or text links...

[gaydemon]

the list has grown nicely now, please do signup and try it out! Sends out more traffic than it gets. ;)

[Mickey]

good move on expanding the listings to be 20 a page insted of 10 btw ...

[gaydemon]

Thanks, yes I thought it might be better. I also added banners to all positions 1 to 100, before I only did 20 of them. Toplist is quite fun, maybe not a massive source of traffic but everything helps.

[Mickey]

Toplists takes some time to mature... Mine is about a year and a half and rocking but its not like building a tube or trade site thats for sure.

[gaydemon]

Toplists takes some time to mature... Mine is about a year and a half and rocking but its not like building a tube or trade site thats for sure.

No, it feels a bit more old fashion but I love the simplicity of it. It's also a fair system from what I can see, probably also different type of visitors who would use a toplist.

[InsaneSimon]

No, it feels a bit more old fashion but I love the simplicity of it. It's also a fair system from what I can see, probably also different type of visitors who would use a toplist.

One friend of mine who lives in my same city owns a pretty large network of old-style sites. Believe or not he can grow them faster than hard skim tgp guys use to do.

[gaydemon]

One friend of mine who lives in my same city owns a pretty large network of old-style sites. Believe or not he can grow them faster than hard skim tgp guys use to do.

Old style as in Toplists or?

[InsaneSimon]

Old style as in Toplists or?

This is one of his sites, the last one, http://www.mom-gfs.com/ . It looks horrible in a wonderful way.

[gaydemon]

This is one of his sites, the last one, http://www.mom-gfs.com/ . It looks horrible in a wonderful way.

Yes, i know what you mean. Reminds me of a lot of the old and still very big straight link lists like Greenguy and Persian Kitty. It looks horrible but i bet it can still work very well.

[gaydemon]

Having some issues with my toplist it seems. People signup and list their site but don't send any traffic.. only take..

I'm guessing I've not been very clear on the signup pages on how a toplist works. Any suggestions how I can describe what a toplist does in a sentence?

[pocoloco]

Having some issues with my toplist it seems. People signup and list their site but don't send any traffic.. only take..

I'm guessing I've not been very clear on the signup pages on how a toplist works. Any suggestions how I can describe what a toplist does in a sentence?

I would add something like: sites are ranked based on the number of incoming hits.

Can't you set a timeframe in which a blog needs to send at least 1 hit in order to remain active ?

[tigermom]

Wow, didn't know people were still setting up top lists. Back at the time, I remember they were prone to cheating - people sending in fake bot traffic in return for your genuine traffic. I'm not an expert, but I think it's something you may want to look up.

[RDude]

If it was my list and I was having issues with people not sending any traffic, I'd make them put up a button, as opposed to just a tiny text link. Text links get lost when they're intermixed with a huge list of them. This could probably be part of the issue. The other being that some people just don't get much traffic in the first place I guess.

As far as a sentence - "You must send "X" amount of hits per day/week/month(whatever) to continue to be listed, otherwise we will have to remove your link."

For me personally, I have a few links up to the toplist, rather than just one. 1 banner link and 1 text link. I don't mind people leaving my blog one bit to go to the toplist, because I know it all comes back to me in the end anyway. A lot of people don't realize this though.

[gaydemon]

I would add something like: sites are ranked based on the number of incoming hits.

Can't you set a timeframe in which a blog needs to send at least 1 hit in order to remain active ?


Thanks that's a good explanation to use. And a good idea. I'm not keen on the idea having sites listed which only take traffic and don't send anything. Have to see if there is such an option.

[gaydemon]

Wow, didn't know people were still setting up top lists. Back at the time, I remember they were prone to cheating - people sending in fake bot traffic in return for your genuine traffic. I'm not an expert, but I think it's something you may want to look up.

Well I just wanted to try something new (to me). I'm just interested in testing and trying out different types of traffic. So Top List and TGPs are the obvious things I haven't tested.

It's kind of fun too, except a lot of people don't seem to get that the need to send traffic to generate traffic.

[Mickey]

as suggested by others i would suggest you make it so that if people dont send at least 1 hit per 24 hours or week they get deleted.

I have done this on one of mine and its working in a sense that i at least dont send traffic to sites that dont send back.

[gaydemon_jr]

It's kind of fun too, except a lot of people don't seem to get that the need to send traffic to generate traffic.

I think the case (for me at least) is that the sites submitted don't have anywhere near the same amount of traffic that GayDemon has.

[gaydemon]

I think the case (for me at least) is that the sites submitted don't have anywhere near the same amount of traffic that GayDemon has.

Not so sure, there are sites with traffic but it seems people are not willing to make the effort to try out and send traffic. People always want more and more but not willing to give anything back.. which is a real problem on a toplist.

I've made the changes now so that sites will only be listed if they send more than 1 hit per day.

[pocoloco]

I've made the changes now so that sites will only be listed if they send more than 1 hit per day.

That's a good solution in my opinion.

Deleting sites completely if they aren't sending at least 1 hit during 24 hrs might not be encouraging for new/small sites.

[gaydemon_jr]

How do you make sure people click on the return link? For Hot Nude Dudes, the link is at the bottom, and people do click them, but not very often. Is it just a case of giving the return link a better position on the page?

[Mickey]

if the script is anything like the old versions you can have it check to see if it can find the link on the page specified when someone signs up but i dont know if Bjorn is using that feature.

[gaydemon]

How do you make sure people click on the return link? For Hot Nude Dudes, the link is at the bottom, and people do click them, but not very often. Is it just a case of giving the return link a better position on the page?

Yes, well it's very different from a normal recip link. Toplist its down to you how you create the traffic that you send to the toplist. So you can use banners, buttons or text links.. whatever will send enough traffic to the toplist to get you a good position.

You can clearly also see that the higher up on the toplist the more traffic you will get. ToplistX (the script i use) is pretty much foolproof when it comes to tampering, what you see is what you get there isnt anything i can do to modify or change who comes at the top.

[gaydemon]

if the script is anything like the old versions you can have it check to see if it can find the link on the page specified when someone signs up but i dont know if Bjorn is using that feature.

I've not looked at that feature, thinking that people would use some kind of link otherwise they wouldn't get any rank.. but i've sorted that issue out now by simply only listing sites that send at least some visitors every day.

[Mickey]

Yes, well it's very different from a normal recip link. Toplist its down to you how you create the traffic that you send to the toplist. So you can use banners, buttons or text links.. whatever will send enough traffic to the toplist to get you a good position.

You can clearly also see that the higher up on the toplist the more traffic you will get. ToplistX (the script i use) is pretty much foolproof when it comes to tampering, what you see is what you get there isnt anything i can do to modify or change who comes at the top.
they removed the weighting option from the script ? in the old version you could put a weighting on a site making its hits count as 2 or 5 hits in insted of just 1 and also make it "feed" sites a few hits when it reset..

i will have to get a copy of the new one to work with and test..

[GPallan]

bjorn, i submitted my site www.dirtyjockvideos.com but i don't see it anywhere on the list. is mine the case of one of those sites that doesn't sent 1hit/day? if i move your link up the page to increase traffic to your site, would i automatically get re-listed? or has my site been removed/deleted permanently?

it's a brand new site (less than a month old), so the traffic is still low, but growing

[tigermom]

I think the problem was with cheaters signing up and sending the list fake bot traffic, or otherwise worthless bought traffic, getting in return quality traffic from others sites. I know there are ways to fight this, but it takes more work.