What disclaimers do I need for my Blog? [Archive]

terrytowel

04-11-2008, 03:22 PM

I was just thinking about this the other day. My Blog

http://www.gaybathhouseporn.com
Gay Bathhouse Porn

Has absolutely no disclaimer whatsoever. Today I did some perusing around other Gay Porn Blogs, and I am not the only one. HUNDREDS of Gay Porn Blogs out there in cyberspace, with even more explicit material than I, has no disclaimers, warning page, nothing whatsoever.

I'm a worrier by nature, and I've always played by the rules.

What if any disclaimer page would you recommended for a Gay Porn Blog? And where can I get them?

Thanks in advance.

Gaystoryman

04-11-2008, 06:28 PM

I was just thinking about this the other day. My Blog

http://www.gaybathhouseporn.com
Gay Bathhouse Porn

Has absolutely no disclaimer whatsoever. Today I did some perusing around other Gay Porn Blogs, and I am not the only one. HUNDREDS of Gay Porn Blogs out there in cyberspace, with even more explicit material than I, has no disclaimers, warning page, nothing whatsoever.

I'm a worrier by nature, and I've always played by the rules.

What if any disclaimer page would you recommended for a Gay Porn Blog? And where can I get them?

Thanks in advance.

Well if you are using a wordpress blog, I would simply do the following.

1. Add a widget to your sidebar with a clear warning. Like I have on this site here (http://gay-story-online.com/free/)

2. In the 'header.php' file of your theme, add the meta information for one of those filter services like ICRA, or Safesurf. It isn't hard to do, and it all helps.

Most will tell you it isn't important, which is why they don't do it, and I don't really have an answer for that.

Another way is to use a static warning page that you can make up in HTML, or if using wordpress, simply make a static page your index page, under settings>privacy if you are using WP 2.5. THen simply make a post page with your warning, advertising, and post it. Actually do the page first, then change your settings.

HTH

basschick

04-11-2008, 08:40 PM

remember to put an RTA label
http://asacp.com/page.php?content=RTA
as well as an ICRA label on every page!

terrytowel

04-11-2008, 09:54 PM

"add the meta information for one of those filter services like ICRA, or Safesurf"

I notice they ask for personal information, which I'm not sure I want to give out.

Gaystoryman

04-12-2008, 12:33 AM

"add the meta information for one of those filter services like ICRA, or Safesurf"

I notice they ask for personal information, which I'm not sure I want to give out.

Not sure what you object to, as all they ask (ICRA) is for your name, and email address, so they can send the label file. The FTP stuff is optional, and I dont' use that, if that is what you meant. :cool:

rawTOP

04-12-2008, 05:57 AM

This is something I don't understand. Whether it's a FHG or a blog, there are sites out there that will have a fancy content/age warning if you go to the main page of the site, but if you land deeper into the site (which is typical for organic traffic or FHGs) there is no warning at all. Aren't we required by law to take steps to ensure that minors don't see adult content?

Putting content/age warnings on every page on the site that render BEFORE the page is loaded is not that hard to do (though I didn't get it quite right the first couple times I tried)...

The general idea is you have a Javascript alert that executes before the page is rendered. It has all your legalese language and the visitor says they accept your terms and meet age requirements. When they say OK, the page is rendered, if they say NO then they're sent off somewhere else without ever seeing the page. To make sure it's not a nuisance, if they say OK, then a session cookie is set so they don't see it again until they come back after closing their browser.

You can see it in action on my site (rawtop.com (http://www.rawtop.com)). Feel free to copy the code and use it for your own purposes. It's the Javascript in the <head> tag...

But I am interested to hear from those of you who don't feel these types of warnings are necessary. I mean, it's rare to see them, so how is it the lawyers for the other sites are OK with them not being there?

terrytowel

04-12-2008, 06:06 AM

Thanks Raw Top. BTW it isn't ICRA that is asking for all this info, but Safe Surf. They seem to want complete contact info.

Gaystoryman

04-12-2008, 11:00 AM

This is something I don't understand. Whether it's a FHG or a blog, there are sites out there that will have a fancy content/age warning if you go to the main page of the site, but if you land deeper into the site (which is typical for organic traffic or FHGs) there is no warning at all. Aren't we required by law to take steps to ensure that minors don't see adult content?

Putting content/age warnings on every page on the site that render BEFORE the page is loaded is not that hard to do (though I didn't get it quite right the first couple times I tried)...

The general idea is you have a Javascript alert that executes before the page is rendered. It has all your legalese language and the visitor says they accept your terms and meet age requirements. When they say OK, the page is rendered, if they say NO then they're sent off somewhere else without ever seeing the page. To make sure it's not a nuisance, if they say OK, then a session cookie is set so they don't see it again until they come back after closing their browser.

You can see it in action on my site (rawtop.com (http://www.rawtop.com)). Feel free to copy the code and use it for your own purposes. It's the Javascript in the <head> tag...

But I am interested to hear from those of you who don't feel these types of warnings are necessary. I mean, it's rare to see them, so how is it the lawyers for the other sites are OK with them not being there?

I believe you do need the warning on every page, which is generally why I simply put a warning on the top of my sidebar. It is painless, and doesn't require them to have java enabled, which some still don't do. I think in the USA you are also required to have the 2257 stuff on every page as well, which is simple enough to dump into the footer.

I find that a simple warning graphic in a top right or left corner is just as viable, less intrusive for those who are seeking adult material, and doesn't put them in an annoyed mood the instant they come to the site.

Safesurf, well I'd just put ICRA on then, though on some of my sites I do have safesurf as well.

Both of these ICRA/Safesurf are codes put into the meta, for parental filters to recognize. Haven't a clue about RTA as I don't use it.

rawTOP

04-12-2008, 12:28 PM

I believe you do need the warning on every page, which is generally why I simply put a warning on the top of my sidebar...

I find that a simple warning graphic in a top right or left corner is just as viable, less intrusive for those who are seeking adult material...

But my point is that by the time the underage kid sees your warning they've also seen adult content that's elsewhere on the page... Isn't that a problem?

abostonboy

04-12-2008, 12:36 PM

Aren't we required by law to take steps to ensure that minors don't see adult content?

Not really. Warning pages are not required. Though most lawyers will tell you to make a good faith effort.

Gaystoryman

04-12-2008, 01:22 PM

But my point is that by the time the underage kid sees your warning they've also seen adult content that's elsewhere on the page... Isn't that a problem?

Yes, but in my own opinion, I think the whole concept of warning pages is nothing more than an enticement for them to click on thru. I mean I know when I was a kid, back in the stone age, the mere idea of something being restricted was a challenge to see it.

I guess I figure that no matter what, whether a javascript pop up or a warning graphic, if the minor is curious he/she is going to click on thru.

The answer lies, imho, in filters that parents can set, that kids can't tamper with, that prevents those pages from showing up. To me, that is really the only alternative, than the parent actually monitoring what their kid surfs.

Until then, well we do what we can, I guess. :bang:

terrytowel

04-12-2008, 03:39 PM

I've been surfing through HUNDREDS of gay porn blogs, looking for examples. And they ALL have the same thing (or rather don't have this on their site.), NO 2257 statement, NO Terms and Conditions and NO Privacy Policy.

Are these NOT needed on a Gay Porn Blog? Or are people not taking this seriously?

ChadKnowsLaw

04-13-2008, 02:26 PM

Allowing minors to obtain pornography is prohibited but there is no law requiring warning pages. So far the only recognized method has been requiring a credit card. Budweiser has a nice entry page but so far the only method that has been courtroom tested is the credit card.

This does not mean that no other method is acceptable, only that no other method has been tested in court.

Which basically means do the best you can to cover your ass and hope you are not a test case!

This is something I don't understand. Whether it's a FHG or a blog, there are sites out there that will have a fancy content/age warning if you go to the main page of the site, but if you land deeper into the site (which is typical for organic traffic or FHGs) there is no warning at all. Aren't we required by law to take steps to ensure that minors don't see adult content?

Putting content/age warnings on every page on the site that render BEFORE the page is loaded is not that hard to do (though I didn't get it quite right the first couple times I tried)...

The general idea is you have a Javascript alert that executes before the page is rendered. It has all your legalese language and the visitor says they accept your terms and meet age requirements. When they say OK, the page is rendered, if they say NO then they're sent off somewhere else without ever seeing the page. To make sure it's not a nuisance, if they say OK, then a session cookie is set so they don't see it again until they come back after closing their browser.

You can see it in action on my site (rawtop.com (http://www.rawtop.com)). Feel free to copy the code and use it for your own purposes. It's the Javascript in the <head> tag...

But I am interested to hear from those of you who don't feel these types of warnings are necessary. I mean, it's rare to see them, so how is it the lawyers for the other sites are OK with them not being there?