Sites Using Stolen Content [Archive] - GayDemon.BIZ

Seth

09-12-2009, 06:57 AM

Moderators please copy this to the Blacklisted Sites forum.

The person who runs these sites is believed to be known as "Slade" on some of the boards. As discussed in detail in this thread (http://www.gaymainstreet.com/TheStreets/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14216) at GMS, I had this guy's CCBill account shut down. He's now processing through zombaio.

cumclassics.com

He is also tied to these domains (possibly more):

manvids.com
ahmen.tv
gayclassic.com
gayboyslinks.com
homoboxoffice.tv
gaypornpilot.com
gayboyslinks.com
24hourmen.com
moxiesites.com
28bbl.com
adultmalemodel.com

basschick

09-12-2009, 11:24 AM

just to give details, in the other thread seth says the guy has stolen his text word-for-word, and also stolen images from GuysGoCrazy. the guy says it's not his site. as usual, my password for gms doesn't work, so i'm unable to read page 2.

abostonboy

09-12-2009, 12:19 PM

as usual, my password for gms doesn't work, so i'm unable to read page 2.
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You have a PM.

Squirt

09-12-2009, 01:18 PM

A little more detail (moderators if I post info that's not allowed please modify the post, not quite sure what's ok)

Cumclassics.com
Douglas Brown
moxxie@speakeasy.net
Doug (Slade) identified by Bec in 2006 as being owner of cumclassic.com in this thread (http://forums.gaywidewebmasters.com/showthread.php?p=143597&highlight=slade#post143597)
Other sites on his server:

Skilledwebtechs.com
Northwestpersonnel.com
24hourmen.com
28bbl.com
Adultmalemodel.com
Adultwebtechs.com
Ahmen.tv
Cumclassics.com
Gayboyslinks.com
Gayclassic.com
Gaypornpilot.com
Homoboxoffice.tv
Manvids.com

Todays public whois (http://whois.domaintools.com/skilledwebtechs.com) for Skilledwebtechs.com is the same as cumclassics before it transferred to hidden (http://domain-history.domaintools.com/?page=details&domain=cumclassics.com&date=2009-06-05) registration:

Likemind Pty Ltd
#13327-239 George St
MLC Centre Shop 302
Brisbane, Queensland 4003
Australia
(040) 113-5025
ijay33@yahoo.com

His Moxisites.com domain shows an address in Seattle, but he used an Australia based registrar to register the name: MELBOURNE IT, LTD. D/B/A INTERNET NAMES WORLDWIDE , as can be seen on this whois page (http://whois.domaintools.com/moxiesites.com).

I know nothing about Slade (Douglas Brown) other then this public info.

Squirt

09-12-2009, 01:39 PM

This is odd.. I just Googled "Likemind Pty Ltd" , the whois owner for the Slade sites and found that Hunkmoney.com is owned by Likemind Pty Ltd as well. The addresses are essentially the same, and they share the same phone number.

Is our Hunk Money Luke also Slade, or are they business partners of some sort? I have no idea, just wondering.

basschick

09-12-2009, 02:08 PM

are the email addresses the same? if not, my first guess is that someone is using luke's whois info with a different email address instead of their own whois info.

This is odd.. I just Googled "Likemind Pty Ltd" , the whois owner for the Slade sites and found that Hunkmoney.com is owned by Likemind Pty Ltd as well. The addresses are essentially the same, and they share the same phone number.

Is our Hunk Money Luke also Slade, or are they business partners of some sort? I have no idea, just wondering.

Seth

09-12-2009, 02:17 PM

Is our Hunk Money Luke also Slade, or are they business partners of some sort? I have no idea, just wondering.

You're right, that is very odd... However, not for a second do I think they are one in the same. These are little-almost nothing websites we're talking about here run by someone who barely has a clue what he's doing. That's definitely not Luke.

My guess is it's either what basschick said above, or maybe Luke helped out this guy in the past with domain registrations or hosting or something.

basschick

09-12-2009, 02:17 PM

i didn't find the same information from google. also when i do a whois for Cumclassics.com i get different information than for luke's sites. the name servers are different and Cumclassics.com uses domainsbyproxy's info:

Registrant

Domains by Proxy, Inc.
(480) 624-2599 Phone
(480) 624-2598 Fax
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
cumclassics.com@domainsbyproxy.com

and as a business name it just says Cumclassics.com

This is odd.. I just Googled "Likemind Pty Ltd" , the whois owner for the Slade sites and found that Hunkmoney.com is owned by Likemind Pty Ltd as well. The addresses are essentially the same, and they share the same phone number.

Is our Hunk Money Luke also Slade, or are they business partners of some sort? I have no idea, just wondering.

Seth

09-12-2009, 02:26 PM

Basschick,

I think Squirt is using a historical whois search.

When I first posted about this on August 20th, it did match.

HunkMoneyLuke

09-12-2009, 03:10 PM

what the fuck????? This is totally illegal. None of those domains above are mine or have ever been mine. He is illegally using my company name. I am contacting my lawyer about this.

gaydemon

09-12-2009, 03:16 PM

what the fuck????? This is totally illegal. None of those domains above are mine or have ever been mine. He is illegally using my company name. I am contacting my lawyer about this.

Sorry to hear about this Luke, its horrible when you suddenly find yourself in the middle of this kind of stuff. I do hope you can get to him and all of this sorted out.

basschick

09-12-2009, 03:21 PM

i figured that was it. aside from your own honesty, which i have never heard questioned, why would there be a different email address?

isn't speakeasy.net (moxxie@speakeasy.net) that site where you can check your internet speed?

what the fuck????? This is totally illegal. None of those domains above are mine or have ever been mine. He is illegally using my company name. I am contacting my lawyer about this.

the whois info has been changed, but i still hope luke can do something about it. perhaps icann won't be too pleased that these guys used someone else's info for domain registration.

Sorry to hear about this Luke, its horrible when you suddenly find yourself in the middle of this kind of stuff. I do hope you can get to him and all of this sorted out.

Seth

09-12-2009, 03:24 PM

You know the funny thing about this whole thing is, it was some text/exact wording of mine he was using that first alerted me. If he would have simply taken it down & apologized, that would have been the end of it at least on my end. I still would have alerted the other producers, but I wouldn't have personally pursued getting his CCBill account shut down.

I just got really pissed off because he has continually denied it and tried to make me look like the bad guy over on GMS.

I've never seen inside his members area(s). I wouldn't be surprised they're packed full of stolen content.

gaydemon

09-13-2009, 01:28 AM

deanb

09-13-2009, 05:29 AM

Gaystoryman

09-13-2009, 06:33 AM

Slade doesn't even post here to defend himself. I think this is kinda ridiculous posting this in a place where he doesn't even read it to give his side of the story. Slade has said it that it isn't him, and what has been posted about him is sketchy information, at best.

No one is stopping him from joining to respond, if he wishes, or stopping anyone from telling, or pointing him to this thread.

IMO, there are some much bigger con artists on this board, which most people aren't too concerned about. Its a bit worrisome that in this industry, on the boards in particular, if you are liked, you can get away with theft and people will take up for you, delete threads, etc. If you are an unknown, then you can just be taken to the cleaners, have your reputation ruined over what really amounts to not a whole lot of proof.

The policy here is that we do not delete threads. Posts with questionable content have been removed with an explanation as to why they have been edited.

I believe this forum does insure that personal attacks are kept to a minimum, unlike other forums.

Seth

09-13-2009, 06:48 AM

Slade doesn't even post here to defend himself. I think this is kinda ridiculous posting this in a place where he doesn't even read it to give his side of the story. Slade has said it that it isn't him, and what has been posted about him is sketchy information, at best.

IMO, there are some much bigger con artists on this board, which most people aren't too concerned about. Its a bit worrisome that in this industry, on the boards in particular, if you are liked, you can get away with theft and people will take up for you, delete threads, etc. If you are an unknown, then you can just be taken to the cleaners, have your reputation ruined over what really amounts to not a whole lot of proof.

The posting of this info wasn't for Slade's benefit. Exactly the opposite. Anyway, I asked Slade on GMS to identify himself & state who he works for or what sites he runs. He has continually refused to do so. He hides behind a nickname and cartoonish avatar with no sites or company listed (like you I might add).

Dean, I don't really care if you don't think there isn't enough proof. Anyone with half a brain will see otherwise. Seriously!

This defending of thieves is sickening at best. Interesting how its usually people who troll the boards anonymously that are the first to defend and take offense to accusations.

HunkMoneyLuke

09-13-2009, 07:09 AM

Looks like our actions here worked. The whois information for skilledwebtechs has been changed http://whois.domaintools.com/skilledwebtechs.com

FYI, I found out godaddy has a system in place to report invalid whois information at http://who.godaddy.com/ReportInvalidWhois.aspx?domain=domain.com (replace domain.com with the domain you are reporting).

dirkpeddler

09-13-2009, 08:32 AM

Just an idea, but if its all in Luke's company name, isnt he then the righful owner.. and could claim the domains are rightfully his and should be moved over to his servers or something. Not sure there is any value in the domains but at least it would be a way of getting back at him.

Well if someone is using Identity theft for domain's whois information, you can pretty much count on those domains being/having been used for shady practices and I wouldn'w want them anywhere near my servers. He probably cannot claim ownership until he gets the login information for those registrar accounts.

deanb

09-13-2009, 10:13 AM

No one is stopping him from joining to respond, if he wishes, or stopping anyone from telling, or pointing him to this thread.

He has already responded on another board. Weeks ago, this drama is old, worn out, and IMO tired. It's the same stuff that has already been posted.

The policy here is that we do not

I should have clarified that a little more. I actually wasn't speaking about this board, just other boards in general. The whole thing frustrates me to no end when someone get dragged through the mud with little to no evidence, yet when something happens with a 'bro' its blown off.

deanb

09-13-2009, 10:15 AM

Dean, I don't really care if you don't think there isn't enough proof. Anyone with half a brain will see otherwise. Seriously!

Now I get attacked. You haven't posted NEAR enough proof, if this went to court, it wouldn't see the light of day in a court room with what you posted. Now if you have some more compelling evidence that Slade is a thief then I am all hears. I have not ONE time EVER in my life spoken to Slade, so I have no reason to defend him. Its just that your evidence is weak.

Seth

09-13-2009, 11:15 AM

Dean, sorry of you feel attacked. That's what happens when you come to the defense of known thieves.

As for this being old & tired, I simply posted it here because Bjorn only recently created a blacklisted sites forum. I thought it was important that these sites be listed.

I just noticed yesterday that he has a new processor and that's the reason I updated the thread on GMS.

If you're tired of this drama, stop reading the thread.

basschick

09-13-2009, 11:35 AM

of course he feels attacked. anyone would feel attacked if this were addressed to them:

Dean, I don't really care if you don't think there isn't enough proof. Anyone with half a brain will see otherwise. Seriously!

This defending of thieves is sickening at best. Interesting how its usually people who troll the boards anonymously that are the first to defend and take offense to accusations.
regardless of how you feel about what dean has to say, please find a way to disagree respectfully. this isn't gfy.

Dean, sorry of you feel attacked. That's what happens when you come to the defense of known thieves.

As for this being old & tired, I simply posted it here because Bjorn only recently created a blacklisted sites forum. I thought it was important that these sites be listed.

I just noticed yesterday that he has a new processor and that's the reason I updated the thread on GMS.

If you're tired of this drama, stop reading the thread.

deanb

09-13-2009, 11:39 AM

That's what happens when you come to the defense of known thieves.

You are still missing the point *sigh*. You haven't proved that it is Slade that owns the sites in the first place, much less enough to call him a "known thief".

I agree with you that the sites in question are content theft. What I don't know, and you have yet to prove, is if it is indeed Slade that owns them. Maybe that makes more sense. :D

basschick

09-13-2009, 11:51 AM

i believe it was said that bec had proved that slade did own the sites...

You are still missing the point *sigh*. You haven't proved that it is Slade that owns the sites in the first place, much less enough to call him a "known thief".

I agree with you that the sites in question are content theft. What I don't know, and you have yet to prove, is if it is indeed Slade that owns them. Maybe that makes more sense. :D

deanb

09-13-2009, 11:58 AM

i believe it was said that bec had proved that slade did own the sites...

He was the owner of the singular version of the domain, nothing has been found to solidly link him to the plural version. I own plenty of singular versions of domains, and almost never purchase the plural. Speaking of which, I should go buy up some of the plurals, just in case. :)

basschick

09-13-2009, 12:01 PM

i only own the singular and plural versions of a few of my domains, and random strangers own the other versions, so i know what you mean.

He was the owner of the singular version of the domain, nothing has been found to solidly link him to the plural version. I own plenty of singular versions of domains, and almost never purchase the plural. Speaking of which, I should go buy up some of the plurals, just in case. :)

Seth

09-13-2009, 12:02 PM

You are still missing the point *sigh*. You haven't proved that it is Slade that owns the sites in the first place, much less enough to call him a "known thief".

I agree with you that the sites in question are content theft. What I don't know, and you have yet to prove, is if it is indeed Slade that owns them. Maybe that makes more sense. :D

Actually I not missing the point. I feel as though I have provided ample proof. Like I said before, if you disagree, fine, that's your right and it's also your right to say so which you've done several times. I got it, you don't agree with me.

Seth

09-13-2009, 12:10 PM

He was the owner of the singular version of the domain, nothing has been found to solidly link him to the plural version. I own plenty of singular versions of domains, and almost never purchase the plural. Speaking of which, I should go buy up some of the plurals, just in case. :)

What if I told you they share the same IP address & that they shared the same CCBill account? Might that convince you?

deanb

09-13-2009, 12:22 PM

What if I told you they share the same IP address & that they shared the same CCBill account? Might that convince you?

CumClassic.com is an available domain name.

basschick

09-13-2009, 12:51 PM

i wonder why you hadn't mentioned that on this thread before. what is slade's site that shares the ip and ccbill account with the site in question?

What if I told you they share the same IP address & that they shared the same CCBill account? Might that convince you?

Squirt

09-13-2009, 01:07 PM

A post by Slade (http://forums.gaywidewebmasters.com/showpost.php?p=130231&postcount=26) in 2006 saying he owns gaysofcolor.com

The whois for gaysofcolor.com (http://whois.domaintools.com/gaysofcolor.com) clearly show Slades name is Douglas Brown

Brown, Douglas http://source.domaintools.com/email.pgif?md5=174cc9ec27ede31bd4def44c45d2bf91&face=arial&size=9&color=000000&bgcolor=FFFFFF&face=arial&size=9&color=0000FF&bgcolor=FFFFFF&format[]=underline&format[]=transparent&format[]=transparent (http://www.domaintools.com/registrant-search/?email=174cc9ec27ede31bd4def44c45d2bf91)
1411 East Marion Street
Seattle, Washington 98122
United States
2063256119 Fax --

You're welcome.

That email address ijay333@yahoo.com is the same email address used on ALL of his other domains posted in this thread, the ones that are now private used the same email as well, confirmed via historical whois. Even after he changed the address of his public whois yesterday, he maintained that same email address!

Looks like he's hosting with NationalNet, it would be nice to see Luke take ownership of those domains since his info was illegally used on them. Minimally Luke now knows who to really go after. Now the GMS administrators can give Luke Slade's IP address so he can be tracked and properly served court documents.

Do I think any of that will happen? No. I think people will forget. I think Slade will be allowed to continue to post on GMS. Minimally he'll hide out a while, come up with a different identity, and keep doing what he's been doing.

What have we learned? We've learned that POSTING THIS INFO PUBLICLY GIVES THESE PEOPLE A HEAD START IN HIDING, OR CHANGING, INFO.

deanb

09-13-2009, 01:11 PM

A post by Slade (http://forums.gaywidewebmasters.com/showpost.php?p=130231&postcount=26) in 2006 saying he owns gaysofcolor.com

FINALLY someone posts something that ACTUALLY links him to those domains. There are still SOME holes that could take him off the hook here, but its unlikely. Hell if someone looked up my sites from 2006, not telling who they would think I was. I have bought / sold many things since then.

Seth

09-13-2009, 01:28 PM

i wonder why you hadn't mentioned that on this thread before. what is slade's site that shares the ip and ccbill account with the site in question?

I linked to the detailed thread in my first post. Specifically it's here (http://www.gaymainstreet.com/TheStreets/showthread.php?postid=127464#post127464).

gayclassic.com & cumclassics.com among others are two that shared the CCBill account.

Seth

09-13-2009, 01:30 PM

A post by Slade (http://forums.gaywidewebmasters.com/showpost.php?p=130231&postcount=26) in 2006 saying he owns gaysofcolor.com
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Thanks Squirt. That's one I had not found in my previous search.

gaydemon

09-13-2009, 01:56 PM

FINALLY someone posts something that ACTUALLY links him to those domains. There are still SOME holes that could take him off the hook here, but its unlikely. Hell if someone looked up my sites from 2006, not telling who they would think I was. I have bought / sold many things since then.

This is turning into a non-argument. All evidence points to one person and pure random conincidents are unlikly or at best extremly rare. It sounds like this "Slade" been caught with his fingers in the cookie jar.

I just hope Luke gets his names off those domains and someone gets these sites shutdown. :no:

deanb

09-13-2009, 02:06 PM

This is turning into a non-argument. All evidence points to one person and pure random conincidents are unlikly or at best extremly rare. It sounds like this "Slade" been caught with his fingers in the cookie jar.

I just hope Luke gets his names off those domains and someone gets these sites shutdown. :no:

FINALLY someone posts something that ACTUALLY links him to those domains.

msgtooshort

Squirt

09-13-2009, 03:21 PM

For historical reasons I'm posting more domains that he owns in case anyone Googles them for info in the future.

moxieplus.com
bannedgayporn.com
paidtobegay.com
studflix.com

Another email he's using: sendmesomereally@hotmail.com

Another name he's using: James Brown

RDude

09-13-2009, 08:50 PM

Douglas Brown, James Brown, Slade....In the event Luke does go after this guy and makes some headway, it will be interesting to find out what his real name is. LOL. As well as where he actually lives too. US, Australia, wherever. Hell, he might even be Canadian. In that case, I want his address Luke. LOL!! Just kidding. Well...kinda.

There is an awful lot of information pointing to this guy from what we're all seeing. Coincidence? It would have to be the biggest in the history of human kind I think.

Add identity theft to the equation and this guy is a downright piece of dirt. Hopefully he gets his ass fried like he deserves.